Congrats white out, you fought the exposure of a dumb POV by creating a thread about it in which, best scenario, everyone goes “I agree” and worst case scenario you just end up trolling people into sharing that same POV here for arguments sake.
So like 95 per cent of the posts in the Orange is the new POTUS thread?
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You know things have gone to far when something that's factually accurate can't be used as a description lest it offend... someone...? ####, I can't keep track.
That's the essence of political correctness, though, isn't it? We know people are racist. We know angry white guys have often said things like Neeson said. You just can't say it, even in the spirit of guilt and contrition.
Black men will tell you white women often cross the street to avoid them.
A white woman who denies that happens will be (rightfully) called out and corrected.
However, a white women who admits that she has crossed the street to avoid a black man, even if she's saying it to acknowledge here own racism, will be publicly excoriated and shamed. Her reputation and perhaps livelihood destroyed.
So the only good choice is to not say the truth.
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He told the story now, for no real good reason. Why even bring the race element into it? It seems like a completely unforced error to say he looked for weeks for a black bastard to kill. He said he learned from his thirst for revenge was wrong, but didn't say he learned from blaming a whole race for one guy's actions.
My understanding is he is on a media tour for his new movie in which he portrays a character that experiences something similar. I think he was sharing the story to show how he identified with the character. Hopefully I am not mis-remembering.
My understanding is he is on a media tour for his new movie in which he portrays a character that experiences something similar. I think he was sharing the story to show how he identified with the character. Hopefully I am not mis-remembering.
My understanding is he is on a media tour for his new movie in which he portrays a character that experiences something similar. I think he was sharing the story to show how he identified with the character. Hopefully I am not mis-remembering.
He could have easily told the story without saying he wanted to kill any black bastard he could find just because a black guy raped his friend. My understanding is the movie was about a guy seeking vengeance not about a guy blaming a whole race for one person's act.
He could have easily told the story without saying he wanted to kill any black bastard he could find just because a black guy raped his friend. My understanding is the movie was about a guy seeking vengeance not about a guy blaming a whole race for one person's act.
His point was that the mindset he had was sick/not fair/horrible, and that he sought help and changed it.
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He could have easily told the story without saying he wanted to kill any black bastard he could find just because a black guy raped his friend. My understanding is the movie was about a guy seeking vengeance not about a guy blaming a whole race for one person's act.
But it would miss the point of being true and his upbringing. Remember, he's not American. It was different in Northern Ireland at the time.
I think what a lot of people are missing about Neeson’s comments is the social context of where and when he grew up. The man went through this experience in a place (Ulster) where violent sectarian killings based on the crimes of your ‘group’ had become normalized. From the 70s right through to the late 90s the concept of revenge killings based on immutable characteristics was accepted and endorsed by large sections of his society.
I’m not saying that it makes what he was feeling okay, and Neeson clearly isn’t either, but it does help to explain why his reaction was so violent against Blacks as a group.
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Mid 20's guy, fueled by rage, and possibly alcohol (I think I heard somewhere once that the Irish liked to drink), hellbent on retribution for a deplorable crime committed against a friend, in extremely racist Northern Ireland, has racist thoughts but doesn't act on them, and seeks help as he doesn't think he should be acting this way.
Next on the today show, homeless man thought about stealing an apple from a grocery store, but decided to beg for money to buy one instead, she he be hung, or quartered?
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But it would miss the point of being true and his upbringing. Remember, he's not American. It was different in Northern Ireland at the time.
I think what a lot of people are missing about Neeson’s comments is the social context of where and when he grew up. The man went through this experience in a place (Ulster) where violent sectarian killings based on the crimes of your ‘group’ had become normalized. From the 70s right through to the late 90s the concept of revenge killings based on immutable characteristics was accepted and endorsed by large sections of his society.
I’m not saying that it makes what he was feeling okay, and Neeson clearly isn’t either, but it does help to explain why his reaction was so violent against Blacks as a group.
The thread started out saying his thoughts at the time weren't racist and linked to a cbc article that oddly altered his quotes to make him look like he wasn't being racist. His story was about going out looking to act on his thirst for racist vengeance. I guess the disconnect for me is that he only sought help, regretted and apologized for the vengeance and violent thoughts, no mention of apologizing for the racist thoughts. But, whatever, I'm not boycotting his movies, or anything (although his same shtick is getting a bit tiresome). I just see how some people could be offended over how he's handled this whole thing.
Here's someone openly admitting to having the wrong idea before and advocating for having the ability to change (even in harsh circumstance in the middle of a social structure much more divided than our own), and he's being slammed for it.
My understanding is he is on a media tour for his new movie in which he portrays a character that experiences something similar. I think he was sharing the story to show how he identified with the character. Hopefully I am not mis-remembering.
to me that is a funny question to ask on a revenge movie - i mean it is a revenge movie, similar to many other liam neeson. these days you go to a liam neeson movie to see a high body count. you don't go expecting to solve the meaning of life.....
but i guess as an entertainment reporter, you need to ask something on the presser
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