03-09-2018, 01:25 PM
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#41
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Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
They should raise his sentence by 5000%.
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03-09-2018, 01:45 PM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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How does he only get 7 years, while the guy who defrauded people at that music festival received a 10 year sentence? Is there any kind of consistency?
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03-09-2018, 01:48 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wormius
How does he only get 7 years, while the guy who defrauded people at that music festival received a 10 year sentence? Is there any kind of consistency?
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They've adopted NHL-style justice.
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03-09-2018, 01:49 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: the dark side of Sesame Street
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03-09-2018, 02:06 PM
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#45
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Originally Posted by Wormius
How does he only get 7 years, while the guy who defrauded people at that music festival received a 10 year sentence? Is there any kind of consistency?
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Billy McFarland hasn't even received a sentence yet. He faces up to ten years after a plea deal.
Shkreli faced up to 25 years, the prosecutor was asking for 15 and he was sentenced to 7 by the judge.
For what it's worth, they also weren't even charged for the same thing, McFarland was charged for multiple counts of wire fraud, Shkreli was found guilty of securities fraud and conspiracy. McFarland defrauded investors over 25M, Shkreli is alleged to have defrauded under 10M, I believe.
Last edited by Oling_Roachinen; 03-09-2018 at 02:11 PM.
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03-10-2018, 09:59 PM
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#46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wormius
How does he only get 7 years, while the guy who defrauded people at that music festival received a 10 year sentence? Is there any kind of consistency?
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The Judge probably gets a new Bentley, don't be shocked if he gets out for "good behavior" in 3 years and the Warden gets a new car too.
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03-11-2018, 06:56 AM
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#47
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wormius
How does he only get 7 years, while the guy who defrauded people at that music festival received a 10 year sentence? Is there any kind of consistency?
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People don’t understand that they have to weigh in the amount of evidence and what they can actually prove. Yes everyone thinks he’s a dick. But his sentence would reflect the actual severity of the crime on hand. Comments like this make me glad that professionals who follow the guidelines of the justice system are in control and not the court of public opinion, wether this guy is an asshat or not.
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03-11-2018, 07:51 AM
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#48
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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
People don’t understand that they have to weigh in the amount of evidence and what they can actually prove. Yes everyone thinks he’s a dick. But his sentence would reflect the actual severity of the crime on hand. Comments like this make me glad that professionals who follow the guidelines of the justice system are in control and not the court of public opinion, wether this guy is an asshat or not.
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OJ got a much more severe sentence cause he's OJ. I think sentencing is where bias comes in.
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03-11-2018, 08:50 AM
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#49
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!
OJ got a much more severe sentence cause he's OJ. I think sentencing is where bias comes in.
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I can’t agree or disagree with that statement because I don’t know enough facts about the evidence in that case or the judges ruling. And sometimes I wish others held that same opinion.
Always makes me cringe when I read people who say well person z got x years for something even worse how did he only get x???
There’s so many factors that play into these kinds of things that people spend decades working to be in a position to hand down a sentence. And then people who spent 5 minutes reading an article feel somehow they know what the right choice was.
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03-11-2018, 09:39 AM
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#50
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Norm!
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I have little sympathy for this clown, he's clearly got some narcissistic disorder.
Now I fully expect that someone is going to slip him a err pill in the middle of the night.
Or someone is going to growl "Take two of these and I'll be back in the morning"
However I think he'll probably go to a minimum security prison where his job is to rake the sand traps on public golf courses anyways.
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03-11-2018, 09:45 AM
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#51
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Always makes me cringe when I read people who say well person z got x years for something even worse how did he only get x???
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That's not at all what I was suggesting. They're totally different cases but it demonstrates that in the USA at least the evidentiary case is not the only consideration in sentencing.
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03-11-2018, 10:35 AM
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#52
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Retired
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Originally Posted by Wormius
How does he only get 7 years, while the guy who defrauded people at that music festival received a 10 year sentence? Is there any kind of consistency?
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Apparently not a single person who invested in his hedge fund lost money. In fact, they all made money through the fund.
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03-11-2018, 10:48 AM
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#53
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!
That's not at all what I was suggesting. They're totally different cases but it demonstrates that in the USA at least the evidentiary case is not the only consideration in sentencing.
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For sure, like I said I don’t know enough to comment. Wasn’t meaning you with what I said.
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03-11-2018, 10:54 AM
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#54
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Apparently not a single person who invested in his hedge fund lost money. In fact, they all made money through the fund.
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Isn’t that how a Ponzi scheme is supposed to work?
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03-11-2018, 10:56 AM
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#55
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Wormius
Isn’t that how a Ponzi scheme is supposed to work?
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No, thats how a normal Hedge Fund is supposed to work.
In Ponzi schemes you need suckers who lose everything.
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03-11-2018, 05:02 PM
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#56
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Apparently not a single person who invested in his hedge fund lost money. In fact, they all made money through the fund.
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Yeah, looking at just what they were actually charged with (i.e., not the legal drug price increase), it's a lot easier to see Billy McFarland as the bigger jerk. He lost 26M for investors but also screwed countless others. A lot of ######s simply laughed at the "rich kids of instagram getting screwed" narrative, but there were a lot of young people who saved up and spent all they had on this one of a lifetime trip, others would have used up all their vacation days, and what they got for it was a ham sandwhich.
On the other end, the "victims" of Shreklli went on to testify during the trial that investing with him was the greatest thing they did in their life.
Both committed fraud, one just happened to work out a lot better in the end.
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03-08-2019, 04:20 PM
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#57
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Norm!
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yeah bump
Under investigation for running his pharmacy company from prison using a cellphone
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1QP2CB
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03-08-2019, 05:19 PM
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#58
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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You need a small cell phone for that move, you don't want to be shoving anything over 2inches wide into your body
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03-08-2019, 05:43 PM
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#59
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Uncle Chester
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Speak for yourself.
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03-08-2019, 06:05 PM
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#60
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
Speak for yourself.
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I'll remember that when I need a laptop brought in, the usual half a deck of smokes fee I assume
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