10-07-2020, 08:51 PM
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#5961
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First Line Centre
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American Politics Thread: The Hunt for Blue November
Biden's media team is on top of it tonight.
flywillvote.com
https://twitter.com/user/status/1314033841661767680
Last edited by bob-loblaw; 10-07-2020 at 08:54 PM.
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10-07-2020, 08:51 PM
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#5962
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
Female politicians cannot show emotion. They do that and then they are attacked as being emotional and not trustworthy because "they get emotional for several days a month." It is one of those things that is not fair nor equal for the men.
Harris did exactly what the Dems were hoping for. She stay composed and allowed Pence to show he had no respect for a woman and would just talk right over her. Trump was a cast as a bully after the debate, and Pence will be cast as a chauvinistic piece of ####, flies and all, in the days to follow. Pence needed to be on issue, on message, and show a modicum of respect toward his female counterpart to make up for the disaster of the Trump performance, and show the whole ticket wasn't a pair of insane clowns. Pence failed miserably.
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I was simplifying an appeal to pathos, but I agree with you.
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10-07-2020, 08:56 PM
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#5963
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10-07-2020, 09:11 PM
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#5965
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
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That account has 40k followers! All the work everyone put into preparing for this debate, and that will be all anyone remembers by tomorrow.
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10-07-2020, 09:14 PM
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#5966
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GOP bar is so low Pence constantly lies, doesn't answer questions, talks over everyone, tries to mansplain a women in her field of expertise, and gets credit for not looking like a raving lunatic
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10-07-2020, 09:23 PM
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#5967
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I thought Pence did well.
He said what his supporters want to here and used the trump campaign talking points quite well. To the uneducated, I’d bet he was quite convincing. So I’m sure republicans bought it.
Harris did well to avoid looking bad by getting angry. She was calm and mostly on point.
But I would not call it a decisive victory for either side.
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Sorry, your theories don’t fly (pun intended).
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10-07-2020, 09:24 PM
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#5968
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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10-07-2020, 09:27 PM
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#5969
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I thought Pence did well.
He said what his supporters want to here and used the trump campaign talking points quite well. To the uneducated, I’d bet he was quite convincing. So I’m sure republicans bought it.
Harris did well to avoid looking bad by getting angry. She was calm and mostly on point.
But I would not call it a decisive victory for either side.
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This debate surprised me after following the run up story that Harris was going to destroy Pence, this was decently fought from both sides.
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10-07-2020, 09:28 PM
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#5970
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Scoring Winger
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I'm astonished trump did not tweet 100's of times instead of maybe a dozen... Likely he needs another injection?
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10-07-2020, 09:32 PM
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#5971
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The fly is funny, but that needs to be shooed away immediately.
Pun and focus both intended.
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10-07-2020, 09:35 PM
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#5972
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It will be interesting to find out what Pence actually thinks of Trump after the ass kicking in November
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10-07-2020, 09:38 PM
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#5973
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by dino7c
It will be interesting to find out what Pence actually thinks of Trump after the ass kicking in November
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Who, Trump? I am about the future and not the past.
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10-07-2020, 09:50 PM
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#5975
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Anyone watching the Washington State governor debate? Came on right after the Vice P debate.
This R guy is getting DESTROYED...getting called out for all the Trump lines. We have gotten used to Trump spouting all this BS its seems even crazier when a seemingly regular person says it. No climate change, no racism, they took our jerbs.
This clown just said "The forest fires were co-ordinated!"
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10-07-2020, 09:50 PM
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#5976
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THE Chuck Storm
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10-07-2020, 10:16 PM
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#5977
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I’m always amazed at how quickly these come out, but per the CNN instant poll of registered voters watching the debate, more people thought Harris won the debate than Pence.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/07/polit...oll/index.html
She really just needed to play defence and not give Pence an opportunity to change the narrative. I doubt the debate mattered at all, which likely helps the Biden ticket in that one more opportunity for Trump to shake things up has slipped away.
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10-07-2020, 10:43 PM
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#5978
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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You know you’re a snooze of a person when a fly landing on your head is the most interesting thing that’s ever happened to you.
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10-07-2020, 11:41 PM
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#5979
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
This debate surprised me after following the run up story that Harris was going to destroy Pence, this was decently fought from both sides.
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Decently fought? Pence answered no questions, interrupted, mansplained, and had no answer for the criminally negligent loss of American lives and jobs.
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10-08-2020, 05:02 AM
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#5980
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
She really just needed to play defence and not give Pence an opportunity to change the narrative. I doubt the debate mattered at all, which likely helps the Biden ticket in that one more opportunity for Trump to shake things up has slipped away.
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This I think is an important point.
Biden campaign is currently about as much ahead as anyone expected them to ever be, possibly more so. This isn't a time to swing for the fences in a VP debate. The Trump campaign desperately needed a win, Dems just needed to not give them anything and make sure Harris comes out looking like a reasonable, non-threatening, qualified politician.
If Harris does anything that stands out too much, the Republicans could go all in on "this crazy terrorist socialist liberal black woman could be the next president, you really want that, it would be the end of America!?!?!" and that might work, because as we all know they're a really sexist and racist country.
That was the real game here, and Pence clearly lost and Harris won.
It will likely not move any needles, but it wasn't supposed to be. What it will likely do is calm down some voters who were already leaning Biden but quietly worried about Harris.
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