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Old 09-03-2018, 02:11 PM   #1
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Saw this circulating today on Facebook, figured worth sharing. I'd never even heard of Union 26 before. Going to make it a point to drop by once they're open again, even if they're just a dive in the NE kind of thing. Support local and all that.

Pretty ####ed up.


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Never heard of it before, but their FB page looks interesting. Beer yoga?! Hmm....
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:47 PM   #3
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Viral marketing to advertise their mini-jugs is all.

Pretty good photos of the relatively unique looking suspects on that Facebook post, shouldn't be long before they are caught.
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Old 09-03-2018, 02:49 PM   #4
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The creeps should show up on the cameras that are required with VLT’s one would think.

Oops I never went to the Facebook link.
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Businesses, bars in particular, have a really hard time making a go these days. Sad to see this kind of disrespect. Although it seems the only thing cops can catch these days are speeders, it would still be nice if they could catch the people responsible and hold them accountable.
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it would still be nice if they could catch the people responsible and hold them accountable.
Boy that seems like an unnecessary and largely uninformed shot.
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There's a nice clear shot of the one guy's face. They should be able to catch them. There's a good chance they're young offenders though, so I don't know how much punishment they'll get.
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At least one of them cut their hand real good. Nice facial shots of them though. They'll get caught in due time.
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Wasting ground beef.
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Wasting ground beef.
Why are you putting that hamburger meat on the floor?
It's ground beef... GROUND beef. Get it?
I hope you go to jail.
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Why is everything covered in dust?
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Why is everything covered in dust?
I'm guessing they set off some fire extinguishers.
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Boy that seems like an unnecessary and largely uninformed shot.
Did you mean to quote somebody else?
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Did you mean to quote somebody else?
Didn’t quote enough of it
Was objecting to the claim that the only thing the police can catch are speeders
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Didn’t quote enough of it
Was objecting to the claim that the only thing the police can catch are speeders
Ah that makes sense, I was just skimming. Yeah, that can be frustrating when it seems that police put more energy into speeding than anything else, but there's reasons for it.

1. There's a dedicated traffic unit who are attacking road violations and responding to accidents regardless of what else is going on in the city, except for extreme circumstances.

2. The traffic unit and traffic tickets handed out account for a huge portion of the police budget, which then allows them to fund other departments to work on other areas of crime.


So unless you want to see a significant bump in your taxes then you need to accept that catching speeders is actually producing revenue for cops to fight other crimes, not taking away from it.
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I take it the photos of the suspects aren’t allowed to be posted here because they might be underaged?
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Ah that makes sense, I was just skimming. Yeah, that can be frustrating when it seems that police put more energy into speeding than anything else, but there's reasons for it.

1. There's a dedicated traffic unit who are attacking road violations and responding to accidents regardless of what else is going on in the city, except for extreme circumstances.

2. The traffic unit and traffic tickets handed out account for a huge portion of the police budget, which then allows them to fund other departments to work on other areas of crime.


So unless you want to see a significant bump in your taxes then you need to accept that catching speeders is actually producing revenue for cops to fight other crimes, not taking away from it.
It makes sense that folks are upset about their perception of traffic enforcement. That's generally the only way in which people interact with police, and generally after they have been caught (by a real officer or a camera...). So it feels that that is "all they do". I can assure you though, CPS is VERY busy, and traffic makes up only a small portion of what police are involved in.

Traffic enforcement is a side of policing that I've found much more fascinating in the last few years. I've always been pretty ambivalent about it myself, knowing that if I got busted speeding, I'd be paying the fine. It's how it works.

After being around on CP and a few other places online, I started to notice people complaining about folks going too slow, the "left lane strugglers", the 'roads are designed for us to go faster' folks, and folks who felt that traffic enforcement was too strict.

So I have been keeping an informal tally for the last 4 years, of the pubic calls I deal with, who's complaining about what when it comes to driving, and the results were rather surprising to me. From what I was seeing online, I was thinking I'd be getting flooded with calls about slow drivers, and folks struggling along.

I almost never do.

I am, however, flooded with calls about speeders, "weavers", "swervers", impatient drivers, folks blasting through construction and school zones, unsafe drivers, and generally bad driving. Out of 4 years, I have had 2 people call up and complain about too much traffic management. I stopped counting after 500 had called stating that police don't do enough traffic management/enforcement. I deal with 5-10 traffic complaints per 12 hour shift. And that's just me.

It's also not common that an officer who is not specifically in the traffic division is doing the stopping, as they are all generally too busy. So unless you are really being egregious in what you are doing, 'normal' police likely have more important things to do than bust you. Photo radar vehicles are not run by police, either. They have Commissionaires in them (and that's a job you couldn't pay me to do...).
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The creeps should show up on the cameras that are required with VLT’s one would think.

Oops I never went to the Facebook link.
Not sure about cameras but I'm sure an alarm system is a requirement. This one didn't work so well.
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It makes sense that folks are upset about their perception of traffic enforcement. That's generally the only way in which people interact with police, and generally after they have been caught (by a real officer or a camera...). So it feels that that is "all they do". I can assure you though, CPS is VERY busy, and traffic makes up only a small portion of what police are involved in.

Traffic enforcement is a side of policing that I've found much more fascinating in the last few years. I've always been pretty ambivalent about it myself, knowing that if I got busted speeding, I'd be paying the fine. It's how it works.

After being around on CP and a few other places online, I started to notice people complaining about folks going too slow, the "left lane strugglers", the 'roads are designed for us to go faster' folks, and folks who felt that traffic enforcement was too strict.

So I have been keeping an informal tally for the last 4 years, of the pubic calls I deal with, who's complaining about what when it comes to driving, and the results were rather surprising to me. From what I was seeing online, I was thinking I'd be getting flooded with calls about slow drivers, and folks struggling along.

I almost never do.

I am, however, flooded with calls about speeders, "weavers", "swervers", impatient drivers, folks blasting through construction and school zones, unsafe drivers, and generally bad driving. Out of 4 years, I have had 2 people call up and complain about too much traffic management. I stopped counting after 500 had called stating that police don't do enough traffic management/enforcement. I deal with 5-10 traffic complaints per 12 hour shift. And that's just me.

It's also not common that an officer who is not specifically in the traffic division is doing the stopping, as they are all generally too busy. So unless you are really being egregious in what you are doing, 'normal' police likely have more important things to do than bust you. Photo radar vehicles are not run by police, either. They have Commissionaires in them (and that's a job you couldn't pay me to do...).
So in other words, it's the struggling losers that are calling in on the people that are passing them? Quelle surprise.
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Although it seems the only thing cops can catch these days are speeders
I'll assume this means you've been caught speeding, but your other crimes have not yet been found out.
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