11-15-2021, 01:01 PM
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#41
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Very windy at mine in Vancouver.
My office just started leaking water from somewhere, heading in to check it out.
This after my front window was smashed just Friday.
Yay!
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11-15-2021, 01:06 PM
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#42
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
Merritt being evaluated?
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What would be the merit in doing that?
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11-15-2021, 01:42 PM
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#43
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Flooding in Abbotford as well and they have requested provincial assistance.
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11-15-2021, 01:59 PM
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#46
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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We attempted the drive from Invermere back to Calgary yesterday morning. I kept checking DriveBC's map and their twitter account and everything made it appear like business as usual for the 93 in the winter. So we went for it, get to Radium to gas up and it's raining. No signage as you entered the park that maybe this wasn't a great idea. Come down into the first valley slowly as you see semi's chained up heading towards Radium. Then we end up in the giant standstill about 2km past Dolly Varden. Of course with no cell coverage you had no idea what was up, luckily a guy in a truck heading towards Radium had a two way radio and said we were looking at at least 5-6 hours to get through.
We are fortunate and had a place to spend the night, so we turned around and went back. That is about as perfect a storm you could get for 93. Challenging conditions, and then through in all the truck traffic from highway 1 and people that have never driven it going for it. No way it was going to end well. I wonder if this will at least lead to some cell coverage on it.
Hit the road at 5:45 this morning and came back via Crowsnest pass. Rain for most of the drive and warm, like 10 degrees in Fernie. That little closure they have on the highway for flooding was a quick detour onto a parallel road.
Listening to the radio on the whole drive, it's like the whole province is under a coordinated weather attack. Unreal.
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11-15-2021, 02:00 PM
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#47
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Voted for Kodos
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From what I’m seeing, it could be a while before any road access into lower mainland is restored.
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11-15-2021, 02:06 PM
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#48
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Hoping there won't be a large (or any) death toll from this. Some of those photos look bad.
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11-15-2021, 02:22 PM
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#49
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Originally Posted by chummer
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Crud.
Well the lower mainland was a write off anyways.
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11-15-2021, 02:24 PM
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#50
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
We attempted the drive from Invermere back to Calgary yesterday morning. I kept checking DriveBC's map and their twitter account and everything made it appear like business as usual for the 93 in the winter. So we went for it, get to Radium to gas up and it's raining. No signage as you entered the park that maybe this wasn't a great idea. Come down into the first valley slowly as you see semi's chained up heading towards Radium. Then we end up in the giant standstill about 2km past Dolly Varden. Of course with no cell coverage you had no idea what was up, luckily a guy in a truck heading towards Radium had a two way radio and said we were looking at at least 5-6 hours to get through.
We are fortunate and had a place to spend the night, so we turned around and went back. That is about as perfect a storm you could get for 93. Challenging conditions, and then through in all the truck traffic from highway 1 and people that have never driven it going for it. No way it was going to end well. I wonder if this will at least lead to some cell coverage on it.
Hit the road at 5:45 this morning and came back via Crowsnest pass. Rain for most of the drive and warm, like 10 degrees in Fernie. That little closure they have on the highway for flooding was a quick detour onto a parallel road.
Listening to the radio on the whole drive, it's like the whole province is under a coordinated weather attack. Unreal.
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How was the traffic on that route?
We got stuck in the mess on 93 yesterday and turned around. Decided just to stay for another day and try again on Tuesday.
Maybe the Fernie route might be best.
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11-15-2021, 02:29 PM
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#51
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: On your last nerve...:D
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11-15-2021, 02:30 PM
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#52
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Captain Otto
How was the traffic on that route?
We got stuck in the mess on 93 yesterday and turned around. Decided just to stay for another day and try again on Tuesday.
Maybe the Fernie route might be best.
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Light traffic, perhaps because we left so early. I’d strongly suggest going that way even though it’s a longer drive. I just think while highway 1 is closed all it will take is another one of those hundreds of waiting semi’s for 93 to open jack-knifing again and it’s a standstill all over again.
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11-15-2021, 02:33 PM
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#53
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
Light traffic, perhaps because we left so early. I’d strongly suggest going that way even though it’s a longer drive. I just think while highway 1 is closed all it will take is another one of those hundreds of waiting semi’s for 93 to open jack-knifing again and it’s a standstill all over again.
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Agreed 100p. We hit 4 areas where all you need is 1 semi to hit the ditch and you are in the mess again. The road was a legitimate skating rink.
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11-15-2021, 02:37 PM
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#54
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
Light traffic, perhaps because we left so early. I’d strongly suggest going that way even though it’s a longer drive. I just think while highway 1 is closed all it will take is another one of those hundreds of waiting semi’s for 93 to open jack-knifing again and it’s a standstill all over again.
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The detour you spoke of, did it divert you back to Highway 3?
Im checking things out now and it looks like Highway 3 is completely closed and Google is giving me some route all the way around Fernie eventually popping out just west of Crowsest on Corbin Road.
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11-15-2021, 02:41 PM
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#55
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Originally Posted by Captain Otto
The detour you spoke of, did it divert you back to Highway 3?
Im checking things out now and it looks like Highway 3 is completely closed and Google is giving me some route all the way around Fernie eventually popping out just west of Crowsest on Corbin Road.
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God no, Crowsnest Pass is the only option - Google just sees a line and connects the dots, I can only imagine how bad that "road" gets up high.
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11-15-2021, 02:42 PM
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#56
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Now world wide!
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Sun is out now in Vancouver, but the last bits of the downpour were some of the worst. That part of the system will likely be over Chilliwack now, and will hit Merritt and the main highways over the next several hours, so I'd expect things to continue to get worse before they get better.
As much as Vancouver is a rainy pit of depression in the winter, I've never seen anything quite like this November. Just storm after storm rolling through, with this most recent downpour just being over the top (although the tornado definitely takes the crown for craziest weather event). If it keeps up, I'd expect we'll break November precipitation records across the lower mainland at least.
Hopefully this was the worst of it though and they can get those highways up and running (and the people who are trapped lifted out) pretty quickly.
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11-15-2021, 02:43 PM
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#57
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Good luck with that....
Just edited, didn't realize BC had 2 Highway 3's half a province apart, unconnected. Odd.
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It runs from the TCH at Hope all the way to AB border at Crowsnest Pass...(and then runs as AB3 all the way to Medicine Hat, essentially rejoining TCH)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britis...mbia_Highway_3
There are certainly a few concurrencies, most notably 95/3 running SW from Cranbrook and 93/3 running SW from same. And the ~7km east from Hope that is both 3 & 5 (Coquihalla) before they split.
Hope to Med Hat via H3 = 1161km
Hope to Med Hat via TCH = 1289km
Hope to Med Hat via Coke + TCH = 1112 km
One of the reasons the most southern route for TCH wasn't considered waaaaay back in the 19th century was it's proximity to the 49th parallel and concerns that the US could invade and cut it off easily.
It wouldn't have been without it's own difficulties, but nothing nearly as challenging as Kicking Horse and Roger's passes. At the Kootenay Pass between Salmo-Creston reaches 1774M (about 130M higher than TCH peak near Lake Louise), but it's a lot straighter (albeit a bit steeper) than Roger's Pass and without significant avalanche concerns. TIL that Salmo-Creston stretch opened in 1964, only 2 years after the TCH opened through Rogers Pass.
I've never driven it, but Princeton-Hope (Allison Pass) is probably at least as windy/dangerous/challenging to construct as any other pass, though perhaps a bit milder in the winter?
I've always been interested in what the fastest/easiest/best route would have been with all of the information we have today. Certainly Howse Pass > Kicking Horse, though that was known pretty well at the time and simply an issue of corruption.
I suspect Crowsnest --> Kootenay --> Allison passes would have still been a bit more efficient than KH/Howse --> Rogers --> Coquihalla, though it's hard to weigh smaller sections like the big hill near Osoyoos and the stretch to Salmo vs. Revy to Meritt
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11-15-2021, 02:46 PM
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#59
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Otto
The detour you spoke of, did it divert you back to Highway 3?
Im checking things out now and it looks like Highway 3 is completely closed and Google is giving me some route all the way around Fernie eventually popping out just west of Crowsest on Corbin Road.
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Yes it did, it’s just a quick jog up Dicken road and then it ran parallel to the #3 for a couple of km’s before joining the highway again.
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11-15-2021, 02:46 PM
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#60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Otto
The detour you spoke of, did it divert you back to Highway 3?
Im checking things out now and it looks like Highway 3 is completely closed and Google is giving me some route all the way around Fernie eventually popping out just west of Crowsest on Corbin Road.
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And from DriveBC there is a local detour in place.
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Highway 3 Both Directions - Highway 3, in both directions. Flooding between Cunliffe Rd and Caldwell Frtg (4 km east of Fernie). Road closed. Watch for traffic control. Expect minor delays. Detour via Dicken Road. Next update time Mon Nov 15 at 5:00 PM MST. Last updated Mon Nov 15 at 2:27 PM MST. (DBC-35094)
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