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Old 11-30-2021, 08:25 PM   #81
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Thanks for all the info. Had a great trip. Neat city and weather was fantastic
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Did you leave your heart there? I've heard of that happening.
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Old 11-30-2021, 09:27 PM   #83
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San Fransisky? So how in did you came? Did you flew or did you drove?
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We there recently and they seemed to have cleaned things up a bit but Market is still a mess. I was interesting to see security line ups outside to try to address some of the brazen shoplifting.

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Old 05-10-2023, 03:16 PM   #85
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Its slogan (unofficial perhaps) used to be something like: Everyone’s Second Favourite City. Meaning your own is your favourite.

San Francisco is awesome. If there is a hop-on, hop-off bus tour take early in your visit. Get off where the heart urges and reboard later. Go to Alcatraz and if your guide offers to lock you in solitary confinement, do it. Book the island well ahead as the tours fill fast. The restaurants are amazing. Consider renting a car for a day trip to Sausalito and south along the coast. Ride the cable cars. Walk a lot as SF is very walkable.

It’s adventure; you’ll love it.
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Old 05-10-2023, 03:38 PM   #86
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#1 Tip for how to afford to live in San Francisco?

Travel.
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Old 05-11-2023, 08:34 AM   #87
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That has to be the most casual street reporter ever.
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Old 05-11-2023, 08:39 AM   #88
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Its slogan (unofficial perhaps) used to be something like: Everyone’s Second Favourite City. Meaning your own is your favourite.

San Francisco is awesome. If there is a hop-on, hop-off bus tour take early in your visit. Get off where the heart urges and reboard later. Go to Alcatraz and if your guide offers to lock you in solitary confinement, do it. Book the island well ahead as the tours fill fast. The restaurants are amazing. Consider renting a car for a day trip to Sausalito and south along the coast. Ride the cable cars. Walk a lot as SF is very walkable.

It’s adventure; you’ll love it.
A drive down the coast, all the way to Big Sur is an absolute must.
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Old 05-11-2023, 09:30 AM   #89
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A drive down the coast, all the way to Big Sur is an absolute must.
And while there, stop in for a quick bite or a cocktail at Nepenthe. The restaurant has some of the most amazing cliffside views you could ask for.

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Old 07-05-2023, 12:09 PM   #90
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Spoiler!


Wow, the entire mall is done now. Market Street is emptying into a wasteland.




https://www.newsweek.com/nordstrom-l...-crime-1797936

Nordstrom Leaving San Francisco, Will Open Store in City With Less Crime

San Francisco's incidence of crime has included an increase in looting, and businesses in California have had to deal with looters ransacking stores.

The website Neighborhood Scout classifies San Mateo as safer than San Francisco, with a crime rate of 26.37 per 1,000 residents. San Francisco has a crime rate of 54.33 per 1,000 residents. On the total crime index—where 100 is rated as safest—San Francisco had an index of 2, meaning it is safer than 2 percent of U.S. cities, compared with San Mateo's 14.

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Old 07-05-2023, 12:31 PM   #91
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That’s all a bit dramatic for a mall closing because people stopped going to the mall.
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Old 07-05-2023, 01:03 PM   #92
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That’s all a bit dramatic for a mall closing because people stopped going to the mall.
We might be living through White Flight round 2. That one only took like 40 years to recover from, so might be good to pay attention to this trend.
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And while there, stop in for a quick bite or a cocktail at Nepenthe. The restaurant has some of the most amazing cliffside views you could ask for.

I'm going to be driving north through Big Sur and SF in a couple weeks... This is now on the list. What a view! Thanks.
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We might be living through White Flight round 2. That one only took like 40 years to recover from, so might be good to pay attention to this trend.
Perhaps that will resolve some of the homeless issues if housing could be anywhere near the realm of moderately overpriced.
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It's hard to get the scale of these things as it's always the extreme cases that get the spotlight. What's the % of San Francisco that's a terrifying hell-hole? If I were to be teleported to a random street in SF, what are the odds that I would immediately be fearful for my well-being? There's about 38,000 homeless on any given night: https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/...king-whats-not
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Perhaps that will resolve some of the homeless issues if housing could be anywhere near the realm of moderately overpriced.
True, just a shame that affordable housing will only exist because we allow utter ghettos to develop. A shame there isn't enough will to fix it in a more positive manner for all.
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Been to San Fran twice 1995 and then 2019.

Two different places, the latter being a complete #####-hole. and LA is about the same these days
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That’s all a bit dramatic for a mall closing because people stopped going to the mall.
Not if the reason why people stopped going to that mall is because a lot of people stopped going to downtown San Francisco altogether.

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BART’s ridership recovery has remained flat as of late, sitting at 40% of pre-pandemic ridership on weekdays and at 60% on weekends, according to Bob Powers, BART’s general manager. In September, the system plans to institute service changes that would trade more trains on weekends and nights with scaled-back service during weekdays.

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Old 07-06-2023, 07:46 AM   #99
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Not if the reason why people stopped going to that mall is because a lot of people stopped going to downtown San Francisco altogether.

https://sfstandard.com/transportatio...-fiscal-cliff/
Sure, but people aren’t not-going downtown because of crime. It’s an issue for sure, but it’s also a completely sensationalized issue. Even the post above calling SF a “####hole” (especially in 2019 lol) is just more of the same over dramatic nonsense.
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Here’s what people who actually live in San Francisco feel about the state of the city.

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How fed up are San Franciscans with the city’s problems? New S.F. Chronicle poll finds pervasive gloom

…John Whitehurst, a political consultant, said he has “never seen voters more upset and angry in San Francisco than they have been over the last two years and continue to be, and that anger gets expressed in many ways. Two ways, recently, include the district attorney recall and the Board of Education recall.”

Roughly one-third of the respondents said they were likely to leave within the next three years. A large majority, 65%, said that life in the city is worse than when they first moved here. Less than one-quarter of respondents said they expected life in San Francisco to improve in two years. More than one-third said it would worsen.

San Franciscans were largely in agreement about the city’s biggest problems: Homelessness took first place, followed by public safety and housing affordability. When asked if, three years from now, those problems would be significantly less severe, nearly 70% of people said either “slightly likely” or “not likely at all.”

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