Ongoing General Automotive Thread 2.0

[InglewoodFan]

Originally Posted by Nufy

Are lease return supposed to be formal experiences ?

I am returning my Wifes Rogue this Saturday and there doesn't seem to be a formal process at all from the dealer.

I already have had the third party inspection completed and don't anticipate any additional charges.

All they are telling me is to drop by on Saturday, grab someone from finance and just give them the keys...

I would have expected some type of final paperwork.

Anyone else's experience the same ? Regardless of dealer ??

I've only leased once, but when I turned in my MINI I had to do a walk around with someone at the dealership to identify any wear/damage and sign off on it. They had this clear plastic card with markings to indicate if a blemish was big enough to worry about.

Funny story out of that return. I leased the car in Toronto then moved back to Calgary part way through. Kept MINI Canada in the loop, arranged turn in at at Calgary dealership. Showed up, dropped it off, walked away happy. Three weeks later, I get a call from MINI asking if I was ever going to drop the car off...

Turns out that the person who took the keys and paperwork put them in their desk and took off on vacation without telling anyone. Was pretty straightforward to get it all worked out, but I was two days from leaving for 5 weeks camping in NZ and it was a bit more stress than I was looking for.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Blizzaks up until this winter when I tried some all weather tires (Wrangler Duratraks).

The problem with pickups is the rear end is super light, the vehicle has a high centre of gravity and the tires are really wide. That makes for crappy handling in slippery conditions.

Minivan has all the weight over the drive tires, a lower centre of gravity and narrower tires.

Still blows my mind that this has to be explained to people. Trucks suck in the snow for your typical snowy road drive.

Signed, a 2013 Sierra owner.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Still blows my mind that this has to be explained to people. Trucks suck in the snow for your typical snowy road drive.

Signed, a 2013 Sierra owner.

I hope your weren't inferring that I needed that explaining to me.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I hope your weren't inferring that I needed that explaining to me.

No, I can see how it appears that way though.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I hope your weren't inferring that I needed that explaining to me.

We never know with you!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

We never know with you!

I'm like a riddle, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a vest.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

The new electric Ford F150 Lightning is going to start at $40,000 USD. That is very impressive although it will probably be pretty stripped down and with limited range. I love the front trunk feature on the Lightning.

$68,000- $110,000 Canadian. Paid my $100 to reserve, will see how it goes....

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Nufy

Are lease return supposed to be formal experiences ?

I am returning my Wifes Rogue this Saturday and there doesn't seem to be a formal process at all from the dealer.

I already have had the third party inspection completed and don't anticipate any additional charges.

All they are telling me is to drop by on Saturday, grab someone from finance and just give them the keys...

I would have expected some type of final paperwork.

Anyone else's experience the same ? Regardless of dealer ??

Keep in mind that the car will go back to Nissan, not the dealer. The dealer is just a drop off location and have no stake in the vehicle. Since you are not getting anything new from them, it's really an inconvenience for them.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It's much faster. I can do my car and truck in an hour(floor jack is also a huge help). Just don't rattle on the torque stick, you have a big gun there and you can still way over tighten with them.

• Maximum Torque (ftlb):
  
  398 ft-lb

Definitely overkill. I have this one, that goes on sale for ~$60.

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/m...3182p.html#srp

280ft lb, and I use a torque stick. On your first time, go immediately to the torque wrench after using it, and see how close it is getting before you go for a drive, then re-torque after. Once you have a feel for it you will know how long to hit each nut.

Yeah, definitely overkill for lug nut tightening, but for removal, it might be nice not having to reach for the breaker bar and knowing there's more than enough torque to easily loosen the nut with ease in most normal applications.

Absolutely, I wouldn't solely rely on the torque stick and hold down the button. The torque stick is more just in case I hold the button down an extra second or two by accident.

[burn_this_city]

I have a cordless 1/2" Dewalt midsize impact and it cut the time to change over wheels and tires in half. I only give it a burp to tighten the lugs and then torque the entire car at once when its on the ground. Its kind of nuts to break the 140ftlbs lug nuts on my truck almost instantly with a cordless gun.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

If Dodge doesn't use the Power Wagon branding on their electric truck, they will have made a devastating mistake. I wonder what Chevy will go with?

Ford is doing Lightning again so Chevy Thunder, perhaps? But that brings me back to the days when people used to put those really cringe Ford vs Chevy decals on their rear windows.

[81MC]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

If Dodge doesn't use the Power Wagon branding on their electric truck, they will have made a devastating mistake. I wonder what Chevy will go with?

It’ll be the SS. These manufacturers are absolutely going to cash in on vintage name plate recognition, and GM better keep up. The demographic for these things is the perfect nostalgia age group, and with the capability of EV, that will be the new performance standard.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

If Dodge doesn't use the Power Wagon branding on their electric truck, they will have made a devastating mistake. I wonder what Chevy will go with?

Chevy Lithos
‘Like a rock’

[Nufy]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I have a cordless 1/2" Dewalt midsize impact and it cut the time to change over wheels and tires in half. I only give it a burp to tighten the lugs and then torque the entire car at once when its on the ground. Its kind of nuts to break the 140ftlbs lug nuts on my truck almost instantly with a cordless gun.

I use my electric impact for removal only.

Re-install by hand.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Yeah, definitely overkill for lug nut tightening, but for removal, it might be nice not having to reach for the breaker bar and knowing there's more than enough torque to easily loosen the nut with ease in most normal applications.

Absolutely, I wouldn't solely rely on the torque stick and hold down the button. The torque stick is more just in case I hold the button down an extra second or two by accident.

Ya, removal will be no problem, unless you had an angry ape install them!

[InglewoodFan]

Originally Posted by 81MC

It’ll be the SS. These manufacturers are absolutely going to cash in on vintage name plate recognition, and GM better keep up. The demographic for these things is the perfect nostalgia age group, and with the capability of EV, that will be the new performance standard.

Hopefully they avoid using lightning bolt S's to denote electric...

[TorqueDog]

^Oof.

Originally Posted by 81MC

It’ll be the SS. These manufacturers are absolutely going to cash in on vintage name plate recognition, and GM better keep up. The demographic for these things is the perfect nostalgia age group, and with the capability of EV, that will be the new performance standard.

"What does SS stand for?"
SuperSpark.

Unrelated, swapped over from factory spec Bridgestone Potenza RE050A AM2s that were strictly a summer tire to a set of four Continental ExtremeContact DWS06+ UHP all-season tires (245/40ZR19-285/35ZR19 99Y). My god, they're so much quieter and way more comfortable, the car went from the ride quality of an 85 Corvette to a Bentley. Still nice and sticky for some spirited driving, and given our city's tendency to have silly temperature swings, an UHP all-season is way more usable for a sports GT that is driven regularly than summer tires that are more compromised at low temperatures.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Ya, removal will be no problem, unless you had an angry ape install them!

I've seen situations where someone used crappy lug nuts for winter that ended up rust fusing to the steelie. It took hours of WD40 saturation to get it loosened.

At the time, having an impact wrench to just attempt to carelessly zipping it off would have been nice (Didn't want to leave the one random tire in case the vehicle needed to be used in an emergency). Undoing everything and reversing the tire change so that there wouldn't be one random different tire was a PITA (It was a size down for winter, so mismatching would have been kinda weird). Also at the time, I was kinda dumb and thought it would be a bigger issue to have that one random tire, until my buddy pointed out it would have been no worse than someone putting on the donut spare.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Nufy

I use my electric impact for removal only.

Re-install by hand.

Mine stops automatically at anything beyond had tight resistance.

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

... Once you have a feel for it you will know how long to hit each nut.

We are just letting this slide?

No "Phrasing"

No "that's what she said?"

Ok, then.