[PGT] Flames lose 3-2 in a shootout

[Saint Troy]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

This team is in no way comparable to Vegas. They are fast and deep. We are slow and shallow.

I have no idea what this Flames roster is capable of with this staff in place....

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Loss is a loss.

not really, not in the SO...not a hockey loss

its a tie IMO

[Kybb79]

Originally Posted by dino7c

That doesn't mean they sat back...because they didn't

they also didn't lose a hockey game, they lost a shootout

I was hoping for a win tonight not a loser point. We needed the two points because we don't know which Flames team will show up tomorrow.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

If you were the coach and the top line hasn't been getting it done for a while would you continue to play them top line minutes and on the first power play? would you continue playing them together?

Probably
I stick with combos because the other lines are going well
And I stick with them on the pp because they need to play there way out of the funk
What precisely would you do?
Bag skate?

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by DJones

Those three lighting it up covered for the system for two months. If Gaudreau wins the Art Ross we can score at a league average pace.

I’d argue the system has looked good more often than not for the past while and the team has dramatically improved defensively since that train wreck of a start.

I guess it’s too much to ask the top guys to play both ends of the ice.

I don’t know, I’m just as frustrated as a lot of people here but to continuously blame the coach is laughable. There needs to be some accountability on the players.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski

Has Jankowski taken a shootout attempt? He's got a great shot plus the long reach for dekes.

I've been asking this question for a while now.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by AC

Neato. How does that equate to sitting back?

The Flames outshot SJ in the 3rd. It's a dumb thing to claim when it wasn't the case.

Why is shot totals suddenly the end all be all of indicators? Calgary sat back it was obvious.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

Flipping between this game and LA/Vegas, and watching Vegas’ system attack non stop vs Gulutzan’s passive approach was sickening.

It feels like Brent Sutter in so many ways. Try to control the whole game and one mistake results in a loss. The players tighten up and nothing gets done. I agree with you entirely...our first line used to be whichever line was on the ice with Gio and Brodie.

[Ashasx]

We've now blown by the point of "I need to see this team do something soon for me to believe" to "please god don't give a lottery pick to the Islanders for Travis freakin Hamonic".

[zamler]

Originally Posted by Saint Troy

I have no idea what this Flames roster is capable of with this staff in place....

Which is exactly the problem.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Loss is a loss.

Cliche is a cliche

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Top line carried the team when the bottom 6 couldn’t buy a point. Now the bottom 6 is proving some scoring and the top line goes dry. This team doesn’t put it alll together and are spinning their tires stuck 2-4 games over .500 the entire season.

I agree. It’s baffling. Why is it so hard to get everyone rolling at the same time?

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

How many more losses until it’s acceptable to snipe?

Hey man, whatever floats your boat, but regardless of what you wanna do this was a good, even and entertaining hockey game and the Flames played well in a tough building. I was just as pissed off as anyone about the effort in the loss to Montreal, so there is actually a way to pick your spots.

[Racki]

Honestly, who didn't see that coming? It felt like an inevitability to me. Quality teams find a way to win. Teams like the Flames find a way not to win. The Sharks took 4/4 points from us in the last two games. We took 1/4 points. There is no moral victories in those outcomes. Every single point is huge in the new NHL and a division rival went +3 vs the Flames in that regard in the last two week. I don't care what the advanced stats say about those two games or the games against the Wild, the Preds, or the Habs. This team is not very good.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Cliche is a cliche

So lame. I hope you captian your opinion and go down with your GG ship.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Probably
I stick with combos because the other lines are going well
And I stick with them on the pp because they need to play there way out of the funk
What precisely would you do?
Bag skate?

I would play them less. I'd take Ferland off the first line and I'd start Jankowski/Bennett or Backlund/Frolik on the first pp unit. clearly having them play out of the funk hasn't been working as evident on our last ~32 PP's.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Wild GM

Cliche is a cliche

Well it’s not getting it done. That’s for sure.

[dieHARDflameZ]

Originally Posted by tkflames

I would be curious to see how much of that production can be attributed to the PP going in the toilet and the lack of adjustments by the coaching staff to matchups. Anecdotally, I am thinking of the first Philly game as a place where the top line had a huge production night with the PP.

What other changes can you make at this point to turn it around? I don't think you have he luxury of riding out the 8 game losing streak as the flames did a few years ago under Hartley. So what other options do you have?

I don’t have the answers that’s for sure. This team is infuriating.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

I’d argue the system has looked good more often than not for the past while and the team has dramatically improved defensively since that train wreck of a start.

I guess it’s too much to ask the top guys to play both ends of the ice.

I don’t know, I’m just as frustrated as a lot of people here but to continuously blame the coach is laughable. There needs to be some accountability on the players.

Maybe it's false hope. If it's not coaching we are a bubble team without a first and three wildcard central teams better than us.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Racki

Honestly, who didn't see that coming? It felt like an inevitability to me. Quality teams find a way to win. Teams like the Flames find a way not to win. The Sharks took 4/4 points from us in the last two games. We took 1/4 points. There is no moral victories in those outcomes. Every single point is huge in the new NHL and a division rival went +3 vs the Flames in that regard in the last two week. I don't care what the advanced stats say about those two games or the games against the Wild, the Preds, or the Habs. This team is not very good.

Sums up things bang on.