09-11-2017, 03:42 PM
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#241
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
A half step faster and two inches taller. I agree that he has an NHL career, but I don't think he has Valimaki's upside. Or Fox's or Kylington's for that matter. Very solid and smart player, but only good, not great, tools.
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Agreed. I think the biggest mistake we made in the prospect poll this summer was ranking Andersson 3rd ahead of Juuso. I'm starting to buy into the Fox hype but I just haven't seen him enough personally to have good handle on him. Kylington has a bigger upside than Andersson but his game still has more warts than Andersson's does.
Great group of prospects to have especially considering they're all coming up behind one of the best top 5's in the league. No pressure to stick them in too early and great depth in case of injuries. Of course leave it to a former defenseman (Treliving) to emphasize that area. Love the depth on D and in goal. Imagine in 03/04 if we could have had depth like this instead of relying on Commodore, Montador and Brennan Evans. Depth makes contenders and we're starting to get to the point where we have contending depth at all the key positions. Only our depth at wing is a big question mark but we still do have some intriguing guys there with Foo, Poirier, Klimchuk, Mangiapane, etc.
Exciting time to be a Flames fan, that's for sure.
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09-11-2017, 04:12 PM
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#242
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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2017 Young Stars Classic: Jets vs Flames. 11:30 AM MT. calgaryflames.com
Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
A half step faster and two inches taller. I agree that he has an NHL career, but I don't think he has Valimaki's upside. Or Fox's or Kylington's for that matter. Very solid and smart player, but only good, not great, tools.
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The really good news is that the Flames number one defenseman for the next decade is already playing in the NHL.
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09-11-2017, 04:16 PM
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#243
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Lifetime Suspension
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I'm not too sold on the Andersson hype. Just something about him that gives me pause that hey can be a regular NHLer. He looks a bit slow out there and a bit undersized. Reminds me a of poor man's Ryan Ellis.
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09-11-2017, 04:19 PM
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#244
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Franchise Player
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Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
The really good news is that the Flames number one defenseman for the next decade is already playing in the NHL.
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So is the arguably just as good #2.
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09-11-2017, 04:28 PM
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#245
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Franchise Player
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Location: Calgary, AB
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For anyone who missed the Andersson mic'd up segment...
Boeser: "In the show they don't call that."
Andersson: "Oh, because you've played five games in the show?"
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09-11-2017, 04:53 PM
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#246
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Franchise Player
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Of course the ####ing ad plays fine and then the video doesn't work. Awesome.
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09-11-2017, 04:59 PM
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#247
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Resident Videologist
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Of course the ####ing ad plays fine and then the video doesn't work. Awesome.
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Here's the timestamp of the moment it starts in the YouTube stream:
https://youtu.be/RgfOlLqGwoI?t=2162
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09-11-2017, 05:03 PM
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#248
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinordi
I'm not too sold on the Andersson hype. Just something about him that gives me pause that hey can be a regular NHLer. He looks a bit slow out there and a bit undersized. Reminds me a of poor man's Ryan Ellis.
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It's probably jus gas...
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09-11-2017, 06:00 PM
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#249
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by New Era
Mason McDonald (72). I try not to get too down on prospects, especially goaltenders, but MacDonald is a massive disappointment. Gives up too many softies.
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I agree with your entire post aside from Mason McDonald. Two of the three goals he let in were fluky goals, and I thought he did very well considering how well his team played in front of him.
0.912% is pretty good when your team is playing like garbage. McDonald is someone who I have gained hope for, after watching him in this tournament.
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09-11-2017, 06:12 PM
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#250
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Franchise Player
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Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunk
I agree with this assessment. The great news is for the Flames that the top prospects all performed well. No unpleasant surprises or disappointments in that category.
Jankowski did himself a lot of favours in my view - he'll be viewed as someone who should make the team out of camp, I think.
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I just don't see it unless he is playing wing. Tre has already said they see Bennett as a C and that is where he will play so add that to Monahan and Backlund and where does he fit? Do we want him playing 4th line minutes or would we rather him play top line minutes another year in the AHL? I am thinking the latter, not like you are going to overcook him down there, the Red Wings have been great at giving guys extra time at the A level.
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09-11-2017, 06:21 PM
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#251
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Franchise Player
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Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
For anyone who missed the Andersson mic'd up segment...
Boeser: "In the show they don't call that."
Andersson: "Oh, because you've played five games in the show?"
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Lol. Andersson's got some funny smack talk.
"Good dump, eh? 79. That's a good dump.... You're having a rough start."
I also like that his English accent is uber Canadian.
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09-11-2017, 06:44 PM
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#252
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I just don't see it unless he is playing wing. Tre has already said they see Bennett as a C and that is where he will play so add that to Monahan and Backlund and where does he fit? Do we want him playing 4th line minutes or would we rather him play top line minutes another year in the AHL? I am thinking the latter, not like you are going to overcook him down there, the Red Wings have been great at giving guys extra time at the A level.
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I disagree good sir.
NHL competition. Coaches. Systems. Players.
The A is a good league, but still a downgrade no matter the minutes and it seems as if he is going to give someone on the roster 6 foot 4 nightmares.
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09-11-2017, 06:59 PM
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#253
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tinordi
I'm not too sold on the Andersson hype. Just something about him that gives me pause that hey can be a regular NHLer. He looks a bit slow out there and a bit undersized. Reminds me a of poor man's Ryan Ellis.
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Couldn't disagree more.
The poise he shows for his age, slowing the game down, making the right decision more often than not, the offensive prowess....
He was and is very impressive for a young d-man.
The skating can improve. Beyond that he's well beyond his years at this point. I have no doubts he'll make the team in a few years.
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09-11-2017, 09:06 PM
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#254
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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2017 Young Stars Classic: Jets vs Flames. 11:30 AM MT. calgaryflames.com
Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I just don't see it unless he is playing wing. Tre has already said they see Bennett as a C and that is where he will play so add that to Monahan and Backlund and where does he fit? Do we want him playing 4th line minutes or would we rather him play top line minutes another year in the AHL? I am thinking the latter, not like you are going to overcook him down there, the Red Wings have been great at giving guys extra time at the A level.
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I don't think Detroit is such a great example of a successful developing organization any more. And I see no problem with starting Jankowski on the wing. If he is good enough to play he should be on the team.
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09-11-2017, 10:40 PM
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#256
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Franchise Player
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My problem with McDonald's game is that, every time I see him, he seems to have a hard time tracking the puck. He looked behind him several times after making the initial save, and a couple of those goals were on him because he couldn't find where the puck was after he stopped it. His rebound control is also subpar.
He gives off a very defeatist body language, and I don't think he has the mental toughness right now to be even a decent AHL goalie TBH.
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09-11-2017, 11:22 PM
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#257
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
My problem with McDonald's game is that, every time I see him, he seems to have a hard time tracking the puck. He looked behind him several times after making the initial save, and a couple of those goals were on him because he couldn't find where the puck was after he stopped it. His rebound control is also subpar.
He gives off a very defeatist body language, and I don't think he has the mental toughness right now to be even a decent AHL goalie TBH.
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Agreed! The view from my seat, between whistles, he would take off his mask and the look on his face was kinda like he was unimpressed and just going through the motions. Now, that being said, he was pretty busy, and the puck was in his zone an awful lot. And in his defense, alot of goalies have resting b**ch face between play, but something about it looked off, and I took it as him being out of his depth a bit. There was no swagger/confidence there. I think he's further away from being an AHL goalie then schneider.
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09-12-2017, 08:39 AM
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#258
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesFanTrev
Agreed! The view from my seat, between whistles, he would take off his mask and the look on his face was kinda like he was unimpressed and just going through the motions...
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Oh, come on.
There is nothing wrong with being critical of how a player is playing, but to raise questions or concerns because he looks sad is anecdotal nonsense.
My expectations for McDonald are quite low, but he had a pretty good outing the other day. I am interested to see how he does in camp this year—if he has improved, that is a good sign and a step forward.
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09-12-2017, 08:41 AM
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#259
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Franchise Player
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Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I just don't see it unless he is playing wing. Tre has already said they see Bennett as a C and that is where he will play so add that to Monahan and Backlund and where does he fit? Do we want him playing 4th line minutes or would we rather him play top line minutes another year in the AHL? I am thinking the latter, not like you are going to overcook him down there, the Red Wings have been great at giving guys extra time at the A level.
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I don't mind him playing wing, or switching on and off on the fourth line C with Stajan (who could also be moved to wing). Calgary's fourth line is going to be one of the better ones in the league. The way things presently shake out, that fourth line could include Stajan, who's a solid vet, Lazar, who has skill, Brouwer, who has experience, and something to prove, Versteeg, who is a very decent player, or maybe Foo.
Jankowski is ready for the NHL either way IMO. And I'm one who was pretty cautious about expectations for him.
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09-12-2017, 10:07 AM
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#260
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Franchise Player
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The young stars is losing its value with the loose roster rules.
The Jets (and the other 2 teams had no skaters that played in the AHL last season)
The only player dressed for the Jets that has an outside chance of getting a solid look in the main camp is Poolman.
The guys that would have been in the tournament had the Jets used the Flames criteria would have been : Connor, Rosolvic, De Leo, Lemieux, Noiger
The guys that the Flames would not have brought to the tournament had they followed the Jets criteria would be Jankowski, Pollok, Mangiapane, Hunter Smith and Andersson. Andersson and Kylington might qualify as they are entering the first year of their ELC
Jankowski, turns 23 tomorrow is playing out the last year of his ELC.
The Flames sending him to this tournament looks to be an effort to pump him up to get him ready for main camp.
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