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Old 11-15-2018, 09:32 AM   #21
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To be fair, he's a foster parent that has to step in and pick up the pieces when inevitably a child is unable to be cared for.
Are we really going to use that appeal to authority to support forced sterilization? Jesus Christ, people.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:35 AM   #22
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There is no justification for this type of thing.

Revolting and disgusting.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:39 AM   #23
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To be fair, he's a foster parent that has to step in and pick up the pieces when inevitably a child is unable to be cared for.
I don’t see why that makes my post unfair...

In no way am I discounting how a person’s experiences can impact their views, but in most if not all cases these are really the exact same motivators for the people coercing sterilization.

It is why noble cause corruption is so harmful in the big picture...because laws and ethics are ignored by otherwise law abiding ethical people who believe the wrong they commit is serving a beneficial purpose.

And I can assure you in my line of work I see plenty of consequences of children being born into situations that are incomprehensible and end up requiring the child to be apprehended by the government.

Government trammelling of women’s human rights can be effective for reducing these types of cases...that’s not a good reason to go that route.

To be clear, I am not characterizing AFC as advocating the trammelling of women’s human rights. I am suggesting his proposed solution is not a solution at all because it is just a less overt form of government coercion that would suffer from the same opportunity to lead to serious wrongs against vulnerable marginalized women.

In Canada, should a person be put to having to choose between clothing or being free from chemicals injected into their body that alter the body’s normal functioning that they do not consent to?
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:39 AM   #24
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Are we really going to use that appeal to authority to support forced sterilization? Jesus Christ, people.
He was advocating for a birth control shot, not sterilization. Has anyone in this thread come out in support of forced sterilization?
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To be clear if you are a chid in care you are already clothed, in fact most everyone in Canada is clothed, I was advocating rewarding girls and young women for making a better choice, clothes, a cell phone what ever it takes really.

I agree its a tacky morally suspect solution but unlike you guys I will spend half an hour tonight trying to neither lie nor cause pain to a ten year old when we have our nightly 'do you think my mum is dead' chat just before I give him a good night hug.
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Pretty heavy stuff. Not really ethically ambiguous either. I'll wait for an official statement from the college (not the school, the governing body) before taking a position.
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:39 PM   #27
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Afc wimbeldon

You and other foster parents who give these kids a safe space deserve a lot of credit
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Old 11-15-2018, 05:49 PM   #28
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You and other foster parents who give these kids a safe space deserve a lot of credit
Thanks, I love what I do, that said teens are easy, looking after a 10 year old is killing me emotionally.
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