06-22-2017, 10:21 AM
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#381
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
What prized assets are you willing to part with?
The team is short on picks and have already traded future picks for Smith.
Personally I do not want or see them trading Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Bennett, Backlund, or the big 3 on the blueline.
Do they move too prospects? Jankowski, Parsons/Gillies, Dube, Anderson, Kylington?
Frolik or Ferland?
Tough to see what movable assets the Flames have to make a huge splash.
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1st, Jankowski, Gillies, Rittich are all likely on the table - and with the premium attached to centres, I could see Jankowski being worth a lot (and should only be moved in order to get back a key piece).
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06-22-2017, 10:43 AM
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#382
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
1st, Jankowski, Gillies, Rittich are all likely on the table - and with the premium attached to centres, I could see Jankowski being worth a lot (and should only be moved in order to get back a key piece).
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for the love of god can we stop trying to trade Bennett and Janko....
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06-22-2017, 10:46 AM
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#383
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Back in Guelph
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Years and years of hoping for a solid Centre.... now we have 4 and everyone wants to trade 3 of them.
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06-22-2017, 10:47 AM
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#384
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund
for the love of god can we stop trying to trade Bennett and Janko....
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Hey, I love Bennett and Jankowski (Bennett more than Jankowski), but the question was posed what of value could we give up - and with Monahan, Backlund and Bennett here, Jankowski could be a hell of a bargaining chip. The return would have to be significant.
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Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
Years and years of hoping for a solid Centre.... now we have 4 and everyone wants to trade 3 of them.
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...holy overreaction here. I've not once suggested trading either, I was making the point that we do have assets with value and that if we want to bring a key piece defensively, we do have assets to go get it done if we want to.
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06-22-2017, 10:49 AM
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#385
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Islanders are in cap trouble.
Would people be willing to take the one year of Halak to land Hamonic? We could send over Rittich and a D prospect like Kylington?
Flames get the best player in the deal but the Islanders open up nearly $8M in cap room
Flames would be stuck with extremely expensive goalie tandem this year but only for one year.
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06-22-2017, 10:50 AM
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#386
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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I don't think the Islanders are sending Hamonic for futures and/or prospects.
It sounds like if they do move Hamonic it is going to be for another top 6 forward, maybe Duchene.
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06-22-2017, 10:51 AM
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#387
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Islanders are in cap trouble.
Would people be willing to take the one year of Halak to land Hamonic? We could send over Rittich and a D prospect like Kylington?
Flames get the best player in the deal but the Islanders open up nearly $8M in cap room
Flames would be stuck with extremely expensive goalie tandem this year but only for one year.
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Without hesitation.
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06-22-2017, 10:51 AM
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#388
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something else haha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Islanders are in cap trouble.
Would people be willing to take the one year of Halak to land Hamonic? We could send over Rittich and a D prospect like Kylington?
Flames get the best player in the deal but the Islanders open up nearly $8M in cap room
Flames would be stuck with extremely expensive goalie tandem this year but only for one year.
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Not a bad idea.
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06-22-2017, 10:53 AM
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#389
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In the Sin Bin
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Man I would love our defense if we could get Stone + Hamonic or Stone + Methot. That'd be right up there as one of the best in the league
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06-22-2017, 10:53 AM
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#390
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Man I would love our defense if we could get Stone + Hamonic or Stone + Methot. That'd be right up there as one of the best in the league
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Yeah, that D-core would be beastly.
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06-22-2017, 10:57 AM
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#391
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Retired
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
...holy overreaction here. I've not once suggested trading either, I was making the point that we do have assets with value and that if we want to bring a key piece defensively, we do have assets to go get it done if we want to.
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I don't recall quoting you......
Yes a bit of an exaggeration for effect, thought that was obvious. You win with strong Centre and D.... which we have. What are we looking to use them as assets for exactly?
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06-22-2017, 10:58 AM
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#392
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Man I would love our defense if we could get Stone + Hamonic or Stone + Methot. That'd be right up there as one of the best in the league
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Unfortunately another 8.5 -10 mil additional cap hit. Never gonna happen.
One of the three is possible. two of the three... never.
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06-22-2017, 11:02 AM
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#393
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by timbit
Unfortunately another 8.5 -10 mil additional cap hit. Never gonna happen.
One of the three is possible. two of the three... never.
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Disagree. I think it's possible. Stone may re-sign for 3.5. Harmonic is only 4, Methot is 4.9. That's 7.5-8.4. I think we can fit that in. Why do you think we can't?
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06-22-2017, 11:04 AM
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#394
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Disagree. I think it's possible. Stone may re-sign for 3.5. Harmonic is only 4, Methot is 4.9. That's 7.5-8.4. I think we can fit that in. Why do you think we can't?
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Because you have to project our cap situation a few years down the road.
Bennett, Tkachuk, Jankowski, Backlund are all going to be getting raises within the next 2 years.
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06-22-2017, 11:08 AM
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#395
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Because you have to project our cap situation a few years down the road.
Bennett, Tkachuk, Jankowski, Backlund are all going to be getting raises within the next 2 years.
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Yep and Stajan/Bouma will be on the way out. And the cap will go up slightly. And in 2 years we likely replace Smith's 4.25 with a rookie goalie salary. Someone will need to crunch the numbers to convince me it's not possible cause it seems pretty reasonable to me
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06-22-2017, 11:12 AM
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#396
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Retired
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Back in Guelph
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The Flames better not be budgeting for rookie starting goalie salary.
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06-22-2017, 11:12 AM
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#397
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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If Hamonic is traded for a reasonable price and it isn't to the Flames....
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06-22-2017, 11:13 AM
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#398
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Lifetime Suspension
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Flames on lookout for top-4 D... believe they've looked into Hamonic, Methot, among others; also still trying to re-sign M. Stone...
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/st...15%26page%3D20
We don't really have any valuable things to give, just re-sign stone and sign Franson.
Last edited by Par; 06-22-2017 at 11:18 AM.
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06-22-2017, 11:14 AM
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#399
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlamesVan
The Flames better not be budgeting for rookie starting goalie salary.
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In 3 years? Certainly looks like that's the long term plan
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06-22-2017, 11:16 AM
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#400
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Disagree. I think it's possible. Stone may re-sign for 3.5. Harmonic is only 4, Methot is 4.9. That's 7.5-8.4. I think we can fit that in. Why do you think we can't?
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I believe that Stone will sign for 4.2 minimum.
Is there a team in the NHL that has a top 4 at a hit of 21 - 22 mil dollars?
Never mind a top 5 at 25- 26 mil.
Bennett Tkachuk Parsons/ Gillies and others will need to be paid moving forward.
Acquisition cost for Methot or Harmonic?
Maybe I am wrong but it does not look feasible to have a top five at that cap hit.
Last edited by timbit; 06-22-2017 at 11:19 AM.
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