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Old 11-06-2020, 11:33 AM   #201
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Second random question: what if revenue falls more than the 20% the players paid in escrow?

Do the owners eat that?
The owners are already eating the operating and non-player expenses that will not be covered by their half of the reduced revenue.

I am not certain but I think that the escrow owing will be carried forward.



Say that revenue drops 30% instead of 20% then the 10% shortfall in escrow will be taken added to the next seasons escrow and eventually the revenue rises to the point that their is no need for escrow under the 81.5 M cap and the escrow carry forward will be burnt off.

They did this instead of dropping the CAP by 40% (expected revenue reduction) and making the cap around 50M with the idea that there would be an actual chance to have small escrow with a possible return to the players when the revenues were tabulated.

Sort of works out with the billionaire owners giving the millionaire players an interest free loan against their future earnings.

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Old 11-06-2020, 12:07 PM   #202
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this reads like a k-tel album of hits

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Canucks Team to Beat in Canadian Division

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and finally ...
Don't group us in with edmonton when talking about the bottom six.

Thats just insulting!
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Old 11-07-2020, 07:31 AM   #203
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Random question 3: Normally does player hotel costs, flight costs, food, etc... come from the owners 50% of HRR?
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Old 11-07-2020, 10:57 AM   #204
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Random question 3: Normally does player hotel costs, flight costs, food, etc... come from the owners 50% of HRR?
The owners portion covers all expenses, so I would think so, yes. The player's portion comes entirely in the form of salary. They are employees after all.

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Oh man ...

this reads like a k-tel album of hits

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Canucks Team to Beat in Canadian Division

or who could forget ...



or his classic ...



or the comeback special ...



one close to his heart ...



and finally ...
Who is Alex Hoegler? Have the Canucks decided to take a page from the Oilers and hire their own shill blogger? Maybe I'm wrong here and this guy is extremely, extremely optimistic but sheesh that's about as homer an article as it gets. I'm I also missing how the Canucks blueline went from trainwreck last season defensively to no weaknesses? Honourable mentions for NHL's worst contracts 2020;

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Old 11-10-2020, 01:24 PM   #206
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Who is Alex Hoegler? Have the Canucks decided to take a page from the Oilers and hire their own shill blogger? Maybe I'm wrong here and this guy is extremely, extremely optimistic but sheesh that's about as homer an article as it gets. I'm I also missing how the Canucks blueline went from trainwreck last season defensively to no weaknesses? Honourable mentions for NHL's worst contracts 2020;



https://theathletic.com/2153756/2020...ontracts-2020/
Its a fansided blogger

Not canucks affiliated at all
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Old 11-10-2020, 01:26 PM   #207
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I don't think theres a real favorite

I'd say that everyone outside Ottawa could finish top

I'd have the Canucks, flames, and leafs as the most likely 3, followed by Edmonton, with Winnipeg and Montreal needing the most to go right
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I think the Canucks will be a dud.
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Old 11-11-2020, 08:44 AM   #209
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The Canucks were already a dud. They wouldn't have been a playoff team last year without career years from JT Miller and Jacob Markstrom, and a calder-level campaign from Hughes. It's reasonable to expect Hughes to be really good next year, but it's not reasonable to expect JT Miller to be a point per game player. That was overachievement. Meanwhile, Markstrom isn't even there anymore.

Even if they'd kept Markstrom, you would have had to expect a step back in terms of goaltending performance because goalies don't typically experience a career year at age 30 only to improve yet again the following year. But instead, they're going with a tandem of a young goalie who might be good at some point, and an aging goalie who used to be good. I don't think it's any more realistic to expect Holtby to be as bad as he was last year than to expect a repeat performance from Markstrom, but he's clearly not who he once was.

Meanwhile their depth is worse everywhere as a result of losing Leivo, Stecher and Toffoli.

The Canadian division is weak and it's possible if the goaltending does perform adequately that they squeak into the playoffs again, I guess, but the Canucks won't be legitimately good unless they get another top 4 defenseman into the mix, and replace those bad contracts in the bottom six with actual positive GAR value at a low price.
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