2021/2022 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

https://www.nhl.com/video/hanifin-an...912/c-57071203

^^ they’ve also vacationed together. Eichel mentions it in a Spittin Chiclets episode

[VictoryJuice]

Some people on this board are absolute debbie downer lunatics. We just had an American player sign in Calgary in Coleman. This is the NHL, these guys have an unreal quality of life…. Not a lot of them are going to care where they play during the season. All have nice summer homes on a lake somewhere anyways.

[Wood]

If anyone cares, Buddy Robinson signed with Anaheim today

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Hmmm. I'll agree last season was a write off. But I'm not sold this is a playoff team yet. There's simply far too many question marks about this roster that have yet to be answered.

And it's simply too early into the offseason to make such proclamations as we don't know what else Treliv8ng has up his sleeve.

I still think this roster is going to look significantly more different come training camp compared to today.

The Pacific this year...

Vegas
Edmonton
Vancouver
Seattle
Los Angeles
San Jose
Anaheim

Where do you think the Flames will slot into that list of garbage?

Even though we lost Gio, we probably still have the 2nd best D core in the division. Markstrom is as good as anyone else in the division (biggest risk for the team is a lengthy injury to Markstom).

The forward group was awful last year, but, to a man, they should have better years. And the additions of Coleman and Pitlick make the middle 6 (and by extension, the 4th line too) better.

I challenge anyone to list 4 teams that they are confident will finish ahead of the Flames. The only team better than the Flames is Vegas.

IMO, the Flames will finish 2nd or 3rd. Finishing 4th would be under-performing.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Wood

If anyone cares, Buddy Robinson signed with Anaheim today

Good, I hope he makes their team. Seems like a good guy and can contribute, at least for spot duty.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Wood

If anyone cares, Buddy Robinson signed with Anaheim today

That has to take them out on Eichel.

[868904]

This Eichel doesn't want to be here thing is just dumb.

I think the Coronavirus and the lockdowns have made people forget about simple social interactions and how they work.

I'd be shocked if Treliving didn't ask Adams "Hey, I'm interested in Eichel, do you think he'd be ok coming here, can you ask him?" Adams can't really lie about it, because if he does, it's a small club they work in and it will get out, he's got a career and a reputation to think about.

Also, Eichel or the agent would have made it be known already. Treliving has probably talked to every agent in the game. Without tampering, I'm sure Eichel's agent could have suggested something.

Plus, as others have said, players talk to each other and players talk to their GMs. Treliving supposedly talks to all his players in player acquisitions. It's very likely he has spoken to Hanifin and Gaudreau about Eichel. It's a simple text that these guys have to send to Jack "Hey, it'd be cool if we could play together sometime in the near future". Eichel can simply text back "Haha, no way, not in Calgary bud!".

Maybe Eichel has already said he doesn't want to come to Calgary. In which case, the reason we don't hear Calgary as a frontrunner is probably for that reason and we are all just wasting our time speculating. But I'm sure that, one way or another, Treliving knows whether Eichel would be ok to play in Calgary. He won't trade those assets if Eichel is going to hold out or be disgruntled.

[Monahammer]

What player has ever held out on their contract for an acquiring team in the NHL? Old guys retiring instead of playing don't count. RFAs don't count. Undrafted players like Lindros don't count. has it ever been done?

Damian Liliard was rumored considering sitting out on his current team next season to force a trade. He publicly went out and said people are dumb, athletes don't usually think like that- and also who in their right mind would risk as much money as he would to do so?

This same situation applies to Eichel. We're talking 10s of millions. Eichel isn't going to hold out playing unless the situation is health related and the team isnt helping him or jerking him around.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

What player has ever held out on their contract for an acquiring team in the NHL? Old guys retiring instead of playing don't count. RFAs don't count. Undrafted players like Lindros don't count. has it ever been done?

Damian Liliard was rumored considering sitting out on his current team next season to force a trade. He publicly went out and said people are dumb, athletes don't usually think like that- and also who in their right mind would risk as much money as he would to do so?

This same situation applies to Eichel. We're talking 10s of millions. Eichel isn't going to hold out playing unless the situation is health related and the team isnt helping him or jerking him around.

I think our Associate Coach did it! Kirk Muller was traded to the Islanders and refused to report.

[Stanley]

I do think Calgary is a legit destination for Eichel...but I'd be surprised if ownership/Tre are willing to give up that many assets to get him

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I think our Associate Coach did it! Kirk Muller was traded to the Islanders and refused to report.

Ok 1984, and Muller was not giving up 10s of millions.

[djsFlames]

I just want smoke on the Eichel front.

A nugget of info to get us excited and our rivals nervous.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Stanley

I do think Calgary is a legit destination for Eichel...but I'd be surprised if ownership/Tre are willing to give up that many assets to get him

Treliving has to be on his last coach, and Sutter isn't here to re-build

If there was ever a time for Treliving to swing for the fences and go all in, it's now

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Then look at it from Eichel's point of view. I don't think he's going to care overly about the team he's going to under a few conditions:
- they want him, and the team has a good reputation respecting player's and their health decisions
- there are players in the same age range as him on the team for competitive windows
- his contract structure can fit the team while remaining competitive

then he probably has a few extra wants:
- some player familiarity
- nice place to live (maybe american preference comes in here.)

but at this point Eichel has stayed loyal to BUFFALO of all cities until the health decision soiled the relationship. As a competitive guy (well documented) I don't think he wants his reputation or future potential legend to be too tarnished by all of this. Money wise, his contract already has him set for life.

I think Calgary largely fits these criteria.

For sure.
I wasn't arguing that he wouldn't want to be in Calgary.
I was just pointing out that any GM who would be acquiring Eichel would want to make sure he was happy to play in their city, even though Eichel is contractually obligated to play for whoever owns his rights.

[_Q_]

Not sure why so many people around here are down on this city.

Not everyone wants to live in New York or Las Vegas. I know for most Canadians, Florida and California are paradise, but for most Americans, both of those places are the butt end of most jokes.

I think Calgary is legitimately a better city than a good number of American cities in the NHL.

[bzoo02]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Not sure why so many people around here are down on this city.

Not everyone wants to live in New York or Las Vegas. I know for most Canadians, Florida and California are paradise, but for most Americans, both of those places are the butt end of most jokes.

I think Calgary is legitimately a better city than a good number of American cities in the NHL.

Agreed. I imagine just many players prefer nature and mountains as players that prefer hot sandy beaches.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Not sure why so many people around here are down on this city.

Not everyone wants to live in New York or Las Vegas. I know for most Canadians, Florida and California are paradise, but for most Americans, both of those places are the butt end of most jokes.

I think Calgary is legitimately a better city than a good number of American cities in the NHL.

They were talking about it on the FAN yesterday and it is the 5-6th smallest metro market in the league.

I think the city played a huge role in getting Coleman to sign but that is part of the problem. Calgary is a great place for families so players with kids seem to be very willing to sign here. Great city to live in, safe, clean, friendly but for 20 something millionaires I can see why many other cities are more attractive.

Small city, fishbowl market, freezing cold winter, brutal travel are reasons this is not a city hockey players want to be.


I will say I do think Calgary is a tier above Edmonton, Winnipeg when it comes to UFA destinations

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Not sure why so many people around here are down on this city.

Not everyone wants to live in New York or Las Vegas. I know for most Canadians, Florida and California are paradise, but for most Americans, both of those places are the butt end of most jokes.

I think Calgary is legitimately a better city than a good number of American cities in the NHL.

I think it depends on age, family circumstances, etc. There's a reason San Jose attracts a lot of vets who are settling down, while Vegas and NYC attract the young guys.

I also think, unlike some posters, that income tax plays a role - it can be significant over the life of a contract. I know there's ways to level it, but I also don't think players or even a lot of agents are savvy that way. Frankly, Treliving should recruit Murray Edwards to talk to some of these guys about sheltering.

[robertsfanatic]

if the cost to acquire Eichel is too high maybe we can shift our focus to Dahlin instead?
if the Sabres are having a fire sale then it can't hurt to ask.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

They were talking about it on the FAN yesterday and it is the 5-6th smallest metro market in the league.

I think the city played a huge role in getting Coleman to sign but that is part of the problem. Calgary is a great place for families so players with kids seem to be very willing to sign here. Great city to live in, safe, clean, friendly but for 20 something millionaires I can see why many other cities are more attractive.

Small city, fishbowl market, freezing cold winter, brutal travel are reasons this is not a city hockey players want to be.


I will say I do think Calgary is a tier above Edmonton, Winnipeg when it comes to UFA destinations

The mountains are for sure a thing, and it's athletes we're talking about, who over-index on the outdoor activities in abundance in the Banff/Canmore area.

For younger guys looking for the downtown city vibe, Calgary loses a little, but the rockies are undoubtedly a factor.