[PGT] Canucks 5 Flames 2. Oh no! We suck again!

[Flamenfame]

Originally Posted by dino7c

lol @ yourself...Smith had better numbers last season and they have the exact same career save percentage despite Elliott playing on much better teams.

If you think Smith cost the Flames the game last night you are out to lunch

Four goals
2 on 1
2 on 1
2 on 0
Breakaway

How many times has Smith been in playoffs lol how many times has elliot lol Smith is utter junk and we will miss playoffs again with him book it

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Flamenfame

How many times has Smith been in playoffs lol how many times has elliot lol Smith is utter junk and we will miss playoffs again with him book it

Punctuation is your friend.


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[Inferno]

Originally Posted by Flamenfame

How many times has Smith been in playoffs lol how many times has elliot lol Smith is utter junk and we will miss playoffs again with him book it

That's like saying an average player or goalie who has a ring is better than Iggy or Kipper.

Elliott may have made the playoffs more but he didn't have to play for a pathetic Coyotes team that no goalie would be able to get into the playoffs.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by nik-

Toews has fallen off, but he was a lot more than just his points when they were winning Cups.

So is Monahan.

Originally Posted by chummer

If he was that good he would have a job in the NHL. 31 GM's disagree with you.

This doesn’t quite ring true because someone who was thought to be one of the top coaches available is still unemployed 6 months later. Alain Vigneault.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

So is Monahan.

I disagree. Especially if you're trying to compare it with the package Toews brought to the Hawks.

[TheScorpion]

Yep, we need better forwards than Gaudreau, that's the problem. Let's go call Jim Rutherford and trade a bunch of add-ons for Evgeni Malkin. See if that'd work.

[Love]

Monahan looked mediocre as always, honestly. I never understood the "he's finally healthy!!!" meme. Same player. It's actually disturbing to me how slow he is. Sucks defensively, and just sits in the slot all day waiting to be spoonfed chances. Can't wait for the Monahan 1C era to be over. I talked to the chief and he told me that this definitely is not it.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by nik-

He's not a sidekick on this team, and that's why we won't be contenders. You can absolutely win with him, but you'd better have some other forwards that are better and more impactful. It's not his fault, the team just isn't good enough.

Yeah I understood what your point was, but it still doesn’t make sense. Do the Oilers need to find a better forward than McDavid to be a contender as well? The Flames don’t need a better forward than Gaudreau, what they need are more players like Gaudreau. Guys who can make other players around them better or help carry the load when the top line is shut down.

Last season, if the top line didn’t score, we didn’t win. Singling out our best player for this team’s lack of success is such cop out. I’d blame the rest of the forwards or the GM for not finding him enough support. It’s like the Iginla-Kiprusoff era all over again. We’ve been a 1 line team for years and only until this past summer has it been addressed.

The way I look at is, Gaudreau plays 19 minutes a game or approximately 30% of the game. He and his line do their part to help the team win the game, but games are typically being lost in the other 70% of the game. The 3M line can quite often be just as effective as the 1st line, but last season there was definite regression from their 16-17 performance which contributed to the failure that was the 17-18 season.

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Love

Monahan looked mediocre as always, honestly. I never understood the "he's finally healthy!!!" meme. Same player. It's actually disturbing to me how slow he is. Sucks defensively, and just sits in the slot all day waiting to be spoonfed chances. Can't wait for the Monahan 1C era to be over. I talked to the chief and he told me that this definitely is not it.

If this post is serious, I give it a solid :/ out of 10.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Love

Monahan looked mediocre as always, honestly. I never understood the "he's finally healthy!!!" meme. Same player. It's actually disturbing to me how slow he is. Sucks defensively, and just sits in the slot all day waiting to be spoonfed chances. Can't wait for the Monahan 1C era to be over. I talked to the chief and he told me that this definitely is not it.

[Love]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

If this post is serious, I give it a solid :/ out of 10.

I'll give yours pandering for internet back pats / 10

(Everyone go thanks his post guys, he made a funny joke)

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper

Yeah I understood what your point was, but it still doesn’t make sense. Do the Oilers need to find a better forward than McDavid to be a contender as well? The Flames don’t need a better forward than Gaudreau, what they need are more players like Gaudreau. Guys who can make other players around them better or help carry the load when the top line is shut down.

Last season, if the top line didn’t score, we didn’t win. Singling out our best player for this team’s lack of success is such cop out. I’d blame the rest of the forwards or the GM for not finding him enough support. It’s like the Iginla-Kiprusoff era all over again. We’ve been a 1 line team for years and only until this past summer has it been addressed.

The way I look at is, Gaudreau plays 19 minutes a game or approximately 30% of the game. He and his line do their part to help the team win the game, but games are typically being lost in the other 70% of the game. The 3M line can quite often be just as effective as the 1st line, but last season there was definite regression from their 16-17 performance which contributed to the failure that was the 17-18 season.

The McDavid thing is a silly comparison. Do the Oilers need to find a player better than a top three player in the league, at center, because the Flames need someone other than Gaudreau to be the main guy up front? No, why would they? How is that relevant?

If you construct your team and your top forward is a flashy winger who can't really play physical, you're in trouble if you think you're going to be a legit contender.

I'm not blaming Gaudreau for this situation. He gives what he can, I don't disparage his skill or what he supplies. It's a team construction problem. We didn't get the level of talent that would have put us at the top of the league. Bad luck, bad picks, mediocre development, a combination of all of it, whatever. It's just where we are now.

[browna]

For all the sweeping generalizations made after 1 game about JG being slow out of shape and not comitted to being elite anymore, and Smith being washed up, the bright side when using that same logic is that Tkachuk and Monahan will get 82 goals and Gudbranson is on pace for almost 740 minutes in penalties.

[Brick]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

We definitely didn't play well, but I also think Markstrom played the best game I can remember him playing against us. Ever.

The Flames have a knack for making most opposing goalies look like they are Vezina candidates. Too often they seem to be unwilling to go into the tough areas to score. Way too much perimeter stuff happening.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Love

Monahan looked mediocre as always, honestly. I never understood the "he's finally healthy!!!" meme. Same player. It's actually disturbing to me how slow he is. Sucks defensively, and just sits in the slot all day waiting to be spoonfed chances. Can't wait for the Monahan 1C era to be over. I talked to the chief and he told me that this definitely is not it.

Just stop. You’ve been beating this drum for as long as I can remember. And a while back I recall you trying to convince us that Horvat is better than Monahan. Just stop. It was game f****** one. We get it, you don’t like Monahan. He’s a consistent goal scoring first line Center. Accept it

[Flamenfame]

Originally Posted by Inferno

That's like saying an average player or goalie who has a ring is better than Iggy or Kipper.

Elliott may have made the playoffs more but he didn't have to play for a pathetic Coyotes team that no goalie would be able to get into the playoffs.

Elliot after slow start was money down the stretch as Flames made playoffs with a much weaker team than last season that Season Flyers missed playoffs , last season with stronger team and better play by our top players we miss playoffs with the joker Smith but low and behold Flyers make playoffs with Elliot , the homerism in here is why this team is allowed to #### the bed ,and the homer fans lie in it.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Love

Monahan looked mediocre as always, honestly. I never understood the "he's finally healthy!!!" meme. Same player. It's actually disturbing to me how slow he is. Sucks defensively, and just sits in the slot all day waiting to be spoonfed chances. Can't wait for the Monahan 1C era to be over. I talked to the chief and he told me that this definitely is not it.

Your opinion = NG.

[djsFlames]

The days between game 1 and 2 are probably the most dramatic here every year since we routinely lose the first one badly.

Always insaaaane overreactions. Then the team plays lights out then next game and everyone flips to the other end of the emotional spectrum and "this is the real team, I knew it!", then we get something in between and it dawns on everybody again that it's a long season and the overall the team is somewhere kind of somewhere the middle and there are too many highs and lows to ride that rollercoaster game to game and we slowly step back and level out a bit.

[Buck Murdock]

Who's kidding who...it was the China trip. Had they had a better training camp and preseason they would have been better prepared instead of playing so sleepy. Boston got destroyed as well.

[Kybb79]

Originally Posted by Buck Murdock

Who's kidding who...it was the China trip. Had they had a better training camp and preseason they would have been better prepared instead of playing so sleepy. Boston got destroyed as well.

Boston lost to the Cup champs. We lost to a lottery team.