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Old 01-15-2021, 09:57 PM   #1
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I thought I would start this up, especially after watching the two episodes and really liking it a lot.

Some of you know, I like writing things about series that really grab me. Agents of Shield, Battlestar Galactica, etc. This one caught me because off of the start its so different and unique. I've placed this in spoilers because there's some speculation in here.

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Old 01-15-2021, 10:02 PM   #2
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The Comics to Read Before 'WandaVision
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Understand the Sorrow at the Heart of 'WandaVision' With These Comics
https://filmschoolrejects.com/wandavision-comic-books/
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Really enjoyed those two episodes. The first was based on 50’s sitcoms, the second was early 60’s. They did a wonderful job replicating the feel of the eras with the acting, sets, costumes, and even tone of the black and white.
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I should add that my 10yr old isn’t so sure about the show. Of course the nods to old timey tv are completely lost on him.
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Really enjoyed it to start. Not quite enough weirdness for me yet. The performances are strong all around.

Who do we think the voice on the radio is? Sounded a bit like Hawkeye to me at the end, but I don't think so.

I think Wanda is in a self-exile, living a version of life where Vision is still alive and people are trying to break in. Shes going to bring Vision back into the real world.
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Posted a reply in the other thread, but moving it here.

It's kind of a funny show, because they are clearly riffing of weekly serial sitcoms through the ages, but I'm not certain the episodes will hold up on their own, as sitcom episodes are usually designed to do.

I'm going remain pretty optimistic it can hit Marvels high standards, and these two episodes just had to do some heavy lifting on the world/relationship building. So far it's missing that narrative action, aside from the excessively direct foreshadowing, I think once our characters really start to feel the sense of mystery or action or threat along with us, the pace will pickup, it seems clear the bee keeper was the first step in that direction.

I'm also thinking there is some Awareness/Self Denialism going on with Wanda. The rewinding clearly shows she is hiding from something she doesn't want to face, and has some level of control over this world.

I'm hoping one of the more interesting mysteries become weather of not this is Visions consciousness trapped somewhere, or a simulation of Vision being generated somehow. I think there is space for a key plot conflict there.

What's with the 7 minute long credits for a TV show? There giving every episode feature film credit treatment. I fast forwarded through them in case they were pulling an MCU on us, with a joke at the end. They aren't
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Really enjoyed those two episodes. The first was based on 50’s sitcoms, the second was early 60’s. They did a wonderful job replicating the feel of the eras with the acting, sets, costumes, and even tone of the black and white.
Guesses for subsequent homages? 70s, maybe All in the Family? 80s, Family Ties? Should be interesting to see.
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What's with the 7 minute long credits for a TV show? There giving every episode feature film credit treatment. I fast forwarded through them in case they were pulling an MCU on us, with a joke at the end. They aren't
Yeah I saw the 5 min left on the credits and I was like “oh must be an after credits thing.” Nope. Just giving love to all the different voice translations it seems.
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Guesses for subsequent homages? 70s, maybe All in the Family? 80s, Family Ties? Should be interesting to see.
Based on the trailer, the 70s looks like the Brady Bunch. There were a lot of similar family sitcoms in the 80s that they could pay homage to, but Family Ties would be a good one.

For the 90s, most of the big sitcoms weren't oriented around a married couple -- like Friends, Seinfeld, and Frasier. Full House would be funny because of Olsen, but it didn't really have a prominent woman until the later seasons. Maybe they could do something like Mad About You. An animated episode in the Simpsons style would be interesting too.

Maybe Everybody Loves Raymond or King of Queens for the late-90s/early 2000s.

For the 2010s, it will likely be Modern Family style.
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I quite enjoyed both episodes. My wife not so much, although she did say the ending of the 2nd episode was better.

I did have a few laughs at the exaggerated acting and the cheesy dialogue. Curious to see how this ties into the new Doctor Strange.
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Watched them both last night. Pretty boring, but I'll keep up with it to see if it develops.
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IMDB has a picture up for Episode 5, and it looks early to mid 80s. I'm not sure we will get a clean decade by decade string. I think it will be more a riffing of a couple sitcoms of a specific archetype, then moving forward in time.

EP1 was I Love Lucy / Dick Van Dyke ~'51-'62
EP2 was Bewitched / Dream of Jeannie ~'65-'72

So we have 2.5 - 3 episodes to travel 10 to 15 years coming up.

I also think there might be a strong desire to go to family sit coms that had a bit of magic in them, because it obviously fits the characters well, as we saw in the 60s inspiration they went with. First example I can think of for Ep 6 or 7 is going to something like the Urkel Transformation Chamber.

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Based on the trailer, the 70s looks like the Brady Bunch. There were a lot of similar family sitcoms in the 80s that they could pay homage to, but Family Ties would be a good one.

For the 90s, most of the big sitcoms weren't oriented around a married couple -- like Friends, Seinfeld, and Frasier. Full House would be funny because of Olsen, but it didn't really have a prominent woman until the later seasons. Maybe they could do something like Mad About You. An animated episode in the Simpsons style would be interesting too.

Maybe Everybody Loves Raymond or King of Queens for the late-90s/early 2000s.

For the 2010s, it will likely be Modern Family style.
I think the 90's is looking like a Rosanne sort of style. Wouldn't be surprised to see the intro be the spinning camera in the middle of the table.

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IMDB has a picture up for Episode 5, and it looks early to mid 80s. I'm not sure we will get a clean decade by decade string. I think it will be more a riffing of a couple sitcoms of a specific archetype, then moving forward in time.

EP1 was I Love Lucy / Dick Van Dyke ~'51-'62
EP2 was Bewitched / Dream of Jeannie ~'65-'72

So we have 2.5 - 3 episodes to travel 10 to 15 years coming up.

I also think there might be a strong desire to go to family sit coms that had a bit of magic in them, because it obviously fits the characters well, as we saw in the 60s inspiration they went with. First example I can think of for Ep 6 or 7 is going to something like the Urkel Transformation Chamber.



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I took the commercials a jokes, not as plot devices. But I could be wrong.

I thought it was confirmed to take place shortly before the forthcoming multiverse of madness. Which I think puts it after all of the existing movies.
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Very slow start and the campiness isn't as charming as I had hoped, but I'm still in for the long haul. Marvel hasn't really ever let me down.

And yes, the series is set after the events of Endgame.
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I took the commercials a jokes, not as plot devices. But I could be wrong.

I thought it was confirmed to take place shortly before the forthcoming multiverse of madness. Which I think puts it after all of the existing movies.

I don't know if I can take the commercials as jokes, just because of the easter eggs in there, and the terrifying sense of doom with the Stark toaster and the countdown buzzer.
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Yeah the oddness of the toaster beep and the the Strucker/Hydra watch cant be ignored.
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Who do we think the voice on the radio is? Sounded a bit like Hawkeye to me at the end, but I don't think so.

Read an article that suggests that the voice is
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The article is in the Atlantic, but contains spoilers for episode 3, since critics have seen it already.
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