DS9 right now remains my favorite Star Trek series, mainly because they hit a homerun in terms of the characters and how they were developed. Also I loved it because frankly they showed that the Federation was not all that great, and were just as dirty as the other races.
In terms of series
1) DS9 - Awesome characters, a deeply flawed but determined Captain who was a good man. The minor characters like Garak were interesting and the Klingons were awesomely used. They also stumbled upon a great enemy that they didn't ruin. Also they had some really wild episodes like Pale Moonlight, but the episode where Sisko was a writer slowly going insane as he tried to get his story about a space station commanded by a black man in the 1940's blew my mind.
2) Star Trek TOS - I always get heat for ranking it so highly, but I don't care. The chemistry between Kirk, Spock and McCoy is unmatched, the minor characters were interesting and they tackled some highly controversial stories like Interracial love and racism.
3) TNG - I didn't like a lot of the series, I hated the Enterprise E design as it looked like a hotel, the Characters were all too flawless and because of that there was a flatness to them. The show did become better in later years mainly because Patrick Stewart really evolved his character. It was a solid addition to the Star Trek Universe, but I think it could have been better.
4) Enterprise - Not a great series, which was sad because it had potential with human's taking their first steps into a larger universe and they were the most formidable race in the universe. I loved the ship design, as it felt claustrophobic like a submarine and they had a whole season where the ship was just beaten to pieces. It got stronger in the last year, the two late season mirror episodes represented nearly the best episodes of any series.
5) Discovery - Just a freaking mess, the characters weren't interesting. The storylines were poorly done. The mirror episodes started strong but became stupid as they progressed. The effects and outside the ship scenes were confusingly bad. The Klingons looked stupid because they were over made up and they spoke like Native Americans. Hopefully they fix this in season two but it seemed desperate that they bought in the 1701.
Not exactly a change as Kurtzman has been working on the show. He also executive produced Star Trek into Darkness, which isn't a endorsement of his skills.
Hey, maybe they'll have the crew of the Enterprise run into Kahn, while the crew of the discovery delivers packages for Space Amazon.
Kurtzman and Orci are perhaps the worst writers in Hollywood, that keep getting high profile jobs. On Kurtzman's resume (writer) :
Star Trek Into : Darkness
Amazing Spiderman 2
The Mummy (the bad Mummy)
Several Transformers movies
MI3 (before it got good)
and some pretty week episodes of major TV series
I had a rant about Kurtzman/Orci 'magic blood' about a year ago. He is horrible and Orci is 10 times worse. Him working on this, or on anything, makes Hollywood as a business look really bad.
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Voyager is the only Star Trek TV show that I ever stopped watching before it finished its original TV run, that's how bad it is. Though the first few episodes of next year's discovery could break that record.
Voyager was in last place for me, I just forgot to put it in. The sad part is that the concept of a ship flung across the galaxy is an amazing story canvas, they just chose to fill it up with bland characters, and then panicked and added the sexy beast to the show and then filled it up with nonsense interspersed with some occasional good arcs (The year in hell). They also continued the unforgivable evisceration of the Borg.
I was thinking about this last night, and everything flows from the Captain out right.
So
Scenario - The shields are down, the bridge is in Flames, three Klingon Cruisers materialize off the port bow. A crewman screams "Captain they're locking on weapons"
How do the Captains respond
Kirk - "Initiate the self destruct sequence and tell the Klingons that if we go they go"
Sisco - "Initiate Evasive Maneuvers Sisco pie one and lock quantum Torpedoes., they'll earn their dinner tonight"
Picard - "Hail them, tell them that I want to resolve this peacefully"
Archer - "Nothing on this freaking ship works, Can we actually hail them?"
Kirk Alternate time line - "Target the lead cruiser and go to maximum impulse, either we're going down (dramatic pause) or they are"
Janeway - "Options people"
7 of 9 - "We can cascade anti-tacyons thought the secondary plasma relays using the main deflector array"
Janeway - "Will that work?"
7 of 9 - "yes Captain, it will give the Klingons the illusion that there are 72 voyagers out there"
Chakotay - "Won't they just shoot the one that they're already targeting?"
Torres - "Silence male, we are planning"
Klingons open fire
PS the voyager storyline, trapped a long ways from home with no help, as bad as enterprise was, the season in the expanse which was the same storyline was done a lot better.
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It always bothered me that they didn't let Enterprise play out its 7 year run. Once Manny Coto took over in the last season, it really did start to pick up steam, and I think it could have really redeemed itself if allowed to continue.
They let Voyager play out 7 years, and it was mostly horrendous. Captain, you missed nothing by bypassing the end of Voyager. Really badly written, and it made a mockery of the entire Star Trek Universe, making all other series not fit properly into what was now canon for that timeline.
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I get that people have different opinions on things but it blows my mind when people say Voyager is one of their favourites. I didn't finish it either and probably gave up after season 2. I might have watched a couple episodes towards the end and did watch the finale just in case it ended well. Nope.
Yeah, I watched the finals and it was cringeworthy, especially when they technobabbled it to the point where they had somehow adapted Borg technology to the ship.
I just wish they would have techno blarged a solution and the main deflector dish blew up or half the crew was bathed in ionizing radiation, and some engineer says in his dying words "I told you the ship wasn't designed to do that you idiots"
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I get that people have different opinions on things but it blows my mind when people say Voyager is one of their favourites. I didn't finish it either and probably gave up after season 2. I might have a watched a couple episodes towards the end and did watch the finale just in case it ended well. Nope.
I just couldn't get invested in those characters at all, especially Paris, Kim, Janeway, and Chakotay. I hated all of them (except for 7 of 9. Damn, she was sexy.)
That being said, I did like the "Year of Hell" and the Species 8472 episodes.
Alex Kurtzman, whose credits include the Star Trek Kelvinverse films, several Transformers movies, and the recent “Dark Universe” reboot of The Mummy, is supervising all of the shows in development, as well as taking over showrunner duties on Discovery season two.
Oh yeah....this cant miss. This guy is hitting all the right buttons.
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The show will come from Stephanie Savage and Josh Schwartz, the creators of Gossip Girl, The CW’s Dynasty reboot, and Hulu and Marvel’s Runaways series. One can only imagine the show falling in line with those series, an entry point for younger audiences who know comic book characters from the Arrowverse and call The Force Awakens their Star Wars.
Discovery already has the whiff of an edgy CW drama about it. I guess snarky class/crew-mates, social ostracization, cliques, moody boys, and alpha girls are the future of SF.
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Follow the antics of Star Fleet Cadets Brandon Johnson, errrr Dylan "Voodoo' Mitowski, Siren whatabooty and Spork as they navigate the treacherous halls of San Fransisco's Star Fleet Academy during the day, and the hot hot after hours scene of the Asteroid pit after dark as special guest bands play the night away. Will Spork be able to scratch his 7 year itch? Will Brandon and Dylan be able to overcome their rivalry over Siren to graduate on time while not looking like 60 year olds playing teenagers? Coming this fall.
Star Trek Kaaaahn
Follow the origin story of Kahn Noonan Singh as he goes from test tube baby to megalomaniac ruler of India and East Asia as he battles other test tube babies for world dominance. See Kahn get figuratively sodimized by the show's creator as we get cameo's from such people as Kirks Great Great Great Great Great Grandfather. Scotty's great great great great grandmother and Siren Whatabooty in a intense episode that involves a ship whipping around the sun into time warp. Coming this fall
Star Trek TCW
Follow the crew of the USS Enterprise as they get involved in the Cluster War and fight a rebellion fought entirely by really cool robots. See the newly created original captain of the Enterprise Captain Jaxon as we show the extent of diversity in the Star Trek Verse, that's right Jaxon is now the captain before Pike.
See Captain Jaxon fight the war and then unwind at the Asteroid Pitt after dark as musical acts of the past are recreated in their cartoon glory.
Captain Picard is a Dix.
That's right Trek Fans, what does the most successful Captain of his time do when he retires? He becomes a private eye, a flatfoot, a gum shoe a complete dix. Watch Captain Picard take on cases as his famed ulterego Dixon Hill, the Dix, the smooth headed Dix. Watch him seduce chicks, solve crimes and lay back at the Asteroid Pit after Dark
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Ugh, those are some pretty terrible ideas. Looks like I'll be sticking with the JJ Abrams/alternate timeline movies for my Star Trek fix for the next little while. Like most of you, I wasn't a big fan of Into Darkness. But I thought the 1st movie and Star Trek Beyond were both excellent.
Speaking of which, it looks like they're finally into pre-production on the next one:
There's also the long rumored Tarantino film that's currently in the works at Paramount. The guy is apparently a huge Trek fan and I'm really curious to see what he comes up with.
According to Deadline, Tarantino came up with the idea for the new movie, and he pitched it to J.J. Abrams and Paramount Pictures. They liked his concept so much that they immediately began assembling a writer’s room to put together a screenplay.
So the movie might not be as chock-full of Tarantino-isms as you’d expect, considering it would be the first film he directs without also writing. Still, the thrust of the movie comes from his brain. The film is also rumored to have an R-rating, although Simon Pegg has suggested this may not be the case.
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