[GDT] "Do it for Gio" Preds @ Flames; 7:00pm MST; SN1; FAN960

[Off the Wall]

Well, Monahan had his first fight in 5 years. I haven’t fought anyone is 40 years.
Maybe there’s hope for this team? Am I allowed to be positive, even if I’m feeling negative?
I’m going to Saturday’s game vs the Canucks. I think I’ll bring a barf bag just in case? ��

[CaptainCrunch]

I think the flames need to be Hyde, the nasty surly constantly angry willing to stomp a person to death in the middle of the street just because that person looked at him funny Hyde.


This team is way to Doctor Jekyll mild mannered, quiet, unassuming old Jekyll.


time to drink that combination of steroids and morphine and liquid anger and jerk and get to work.

[Hanna Sniper]

[Red_Baron]

I wish people would drop the whole "The Core doesn't have what it takes to win a cup" nonsense. I agree that we can't win the cup without a solid top 6 right wing and has a team ever went anywhere with an interim head coach? People need to get out of this "blow it up" mentality and realize until we make a couple small changes to balance things out, we have no idea what we really have.

Get a legitimate top 6 right wing and hire a friggen coach-or engage full tank mode and hope the lottery works out for us. But lets face it, if we finish dead last, we almost surely will be drafting 4th with this franchise's luck.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Red_Baron

has a team ever went anywhere with an interim head coach?

Blues

(this is not an endorsement for Ward btw)

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Blues

(this is not an endorsement for Ward btw)

It's only happened twice before in NHL history. Larry Robinson was the first interim HC to win the Stanley Cup in 2000.

The point stands that the Flames are unlikely to make much noise this year without a coaching upgrade, and a coaching upgrade seems highly unlikely until the offseason, since the best candidates appear to be presently unavailable.

[FBI]

Not going to watch unless you guys say they played a hard fought game. If so then I'll watch it after.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Red_Baron

I wish people would drop the whole "The Core doesn't have what it takes to win a cup" nonsense.

How is that nonsense? Our core (mainly Johnny and Monny) are consistently no-shows in meaningful games. You can't win when your highest paid players can't be trusted to take over games when you need them.

When they're down by a goal with a minute left, do you think they look down the bench towards Johnny and Monny and think "those are two guys that are gonna go out there and win us this game"? Not a chance. Their will to compete is not high enough. Personally I think it's nonsense to ignore this.

[sureLoss]

Pat Steinberg
@Fan960Steinberg
Cam Talbot starting in net tonight vs. Nashville. #Flames

[dammage79]

This game tonight for me will tell me all I need to know about the rest of the season. How they play against a team they generally play very well against will turn my mind into hopeful or see you next season.

Do well Flames, time to kick into a higher gear.

[Red_Baron]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

How is that nonsense? Our core (mainly Johnny and Monny) are consistently no-shows in meaningful games. You can't win when your highest paid players can't be trusted to take over games when you need them.

When they're down by a goal with a minute left, do you think they look down the bench towards Johnny and Monny and think "those are two guys that are gonna go out there and win us this game"? Not a chance. Their will to compete is not high enough. Personally I think it's nonsense to ignore this.

Maybe put a proper right wing with them. Ever tried driving a car with 3 good tires and a temporary spare? Was it at its best?

[FanIn80]

Lose.
Sell.
Lose some more.
Draft high.
Restock.
Sign.
Try again.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Red_Baron

Maybe put a proper right wing with them. Ever tried driving a car with 3 good tires and a temporary spare? Was it at its best?

That is just a terrible comparison. Hockey players can be judged by their effort level and desire to win, and in my opinion, the case is closed on those two.

[sureLoss]

Derek Wills @Fan960Wills
Mark Jankowski is out, Tobias Rieder is in for #Flames vs. #Preds. #NSHvsCGY

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames tonight vs. Nashville:

Mangiapane-Lindholm-Tkachuk
Gaudreau-Monahan-Robinson
Lucic-Ryan-Dube
Rieder-Backlund-Bennett

Brodie-Hamonic
Hanifin-Andersson
Kylington-Stone

Talbot

[Puppet Guy]

[Red_Baron]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It's only happened twice before in NHL history. Larry Robinson was the first interim HC to win the Stanley Cup in 2000.

I should have thought that part of my post out a bit more. Both those interim head coaches had experience as a head coach in the NHL, better question would have been if a rookie interim head coach has ever won a cup. Has a rookie interim head coach had a good playoff run?

[Red_Baron]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

That is just a terrible comparison. Hockey players can be judged by their effort level and desire to win, and in my opinion, the case is closed on those two.

If I had a nickel for every time someone used the desire to win and effort level argument, I'd be rich. Why do people think that a player is on-purposely not trying? Not every player on every team has a compete level like Tkachuk but yet those teams still win stanley cups. Bouwmeester is a great example of that-use players like Gaudreau and Monahan to score goals, not lead the team. Don't just discard them.

There is a whole other team that is tasked with exploiting your weaknesses and without other assets to balance it out, it is pretty easy for an opposing team to do so.

[tvp2003]

In terms of the forwards, I hope Ward learns from the SJ game and doesn't hit the line blender unless it's really necessary. Shortening the bench wouldn't be a bad idea either.

As for the D, hopefully the new pairings will re-energize the group (especially Hanifin and Hamonic). I also think Kylington/Stone could potentially be decent third pairing.

Also good to see Talbot back in. For some reason, Rittich's numbers at home have been awful in recent weeks.

[MillerTime GFG]

Originally Posted by Red_Baron

If I had a nickel for every time someone used the desire to win and effort level argument, I'd be rich. Why do people think that a player is on-purposely not trying? Not every player on every team has a compete level like Tkachuk but yet those teams still win stanley cups. Bouwmeester is a great example of that-use players like Gaudreau and Monahan to score goals, not lead the team. Don't just discard them.

There is a whole other team that is tasked with exploiting your weaknesses and without other assets to balance it out, it is pretty easy for an opposing team to do so.

It's not necessarily because they're "not trying", though even that's getting hard to defend Johnny on lately, but it's more-so that extra gear that winners have. I don't think they are winners at this level of hockey. Not as the focal points of the team at least, which is what they're being paid for.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

How is that nonsense? Our core (mainly Johnny and Monny) are consistently no-shows in meaningful games. You can't win when your highest paid players can't be trusted to take over games when you need them.

When they're down by a goal with a minute left, do you think they look down the bench towards Johnny and Monny and think "those are two guys that are gonna go out there and win us this game"? Not a chance. Their will to compete is not high enough. Personally I think it's nonsense to ignore this.

I'm fairly certain the Flames have the most comeback wins in the NHL since those two came along