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Old 07-21-2019, 12:28 PM   #21
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I’m very high on Mangiapane. I think he has the skillset to be a 20-30 goal scorer real soon. His game after the All Star break really flourished.


Pre All Star Weekend:

GP: 13
G: 0
A: 1
PTS: 1
+/-: -4
TOI: 9:53

Post All Star Weekend:
GP: 31
G: 8
A: 4
PTS: 12
+/-: +15
TOI: 10:45


Extrapolate those stats and the Flames could very well have their next break out star. Derek Ryan probably deserves some credit for his turnaround, but it looks like Eat Bread’s finally taken his dominant AHL game and has finally translated to The Show.
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Old 07-21-2019, 12:30 PM   #22
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If Dube can take a step forward and have an awesome preseason, I think Mangiapane - Ryan - Dube could be an awesome third line, albeit very small.
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Old 07-21-2019, 02:34 PM   #23
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Post All Star Weekend:
GP: 31
G: 8
A: 4
PTS: 12
+/-: +15
TOI: 10:45
That'd be 21 goals for Mangiapane over the 82 game season, great potential stats for those minutes.
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:15 PM   #24
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That'd be 21 goals for Mangiapane over the 82 game season, great potential stats for those minutes.


Absolutely, weíre talking about 4th line minutes here. That 4th line was quite possibly the MVP of the Flamesí second half. They were outstanding.

Also, the quality of goals Mangiapane managed to score was probably equally impressive. One timers, dekes, garbage goals, shots from a distance. He could be a quality NHL sniper in the next few years.

I always remembered how good he looked in the Penticton tournament and how often I mistook him for Sam Bennett because he stood out so much. Hope he puts in a good summer and is ready to take the next step.


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Old 07-21-2019, 08:12 PM   #25
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I honestly can't see him scoring 600 goals or 1300 points.
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Old 07-21-2019, 09:06 PM   #26
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The kid can motor.

I originally thought he'd be a checking line energy player, but I now think his soft hands will follow him to the NHL. Good thinker as well.

Middle six winger to regular second line potential.
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I agree with those saying they see Cammy in his game; I can see it too. Has a really quick release in his snap shot and is able to do the one knee one-timer as well. I think he carves out a full-time spot on the 3rd line this year.
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Old 07-22-2019, 10:42 AM   #28
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I don't really see Cammy's shot with Mangiapane. However, I do think that - albeit mostly towards the end of the season and in the playoffs - that he is more dynamic than Cammy was. Not saying it will make him more or less successful, but I do think with his motor, his speed, and his ability to make plays, he will probably end up as a key cog of this team in the years to come.
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Old 07-22-2019, 11:19 AM   #29
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I don’t know what it is but he’s never done anything in a game that stood out to me. He’s fast but that’s about it. Seems like more of a tweener to me than anything. Sure hope I get proven wrong though!
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Old 07-22-2019, 12:20 PM   #30
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I donít know what it is but heís never done anything in a game that stood out to me. Heís fast but thatís about it. Seems like more of a tweener to me than anything. Sure hope I get proven wrong though!
Did you not see his goal in Game 1 vs Colorado ? That was a confident play.


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Id love to see tree lock him up for 4 years at 1.2
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I donít know what it is but heís never done anything in a game that stood out to me. Heís fast but thatís about it. Seems like more of a tweener to me than anything. Sure hope I get proven wrong though!
Have you seen his shot?



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What strikes me about Mangiapane is his vastly improved play throughout the season all over the ice. Defensively, his game has seen significant growth. I was surprised when Peters started keeping him in the lineup as I didn't think that he was strong enough defensively for a bottom 6 role. What really impressed me was his play down the stretch and into the playoffs where he suddenly found the confidence to start holding onto pucks longer and have more patience with his shot. He definitely started showing a lot more creativity, and this leads me to believe that he could very well pan out as a top 6 option.


I think it will be a revolving door of wingers and line combinations again this year - maybe especially so given that I think Frolik will eventually get traded to free up cap space this off-season, and Neal being dealt. You have Czarnik, Mangiapane, Dube, Bennett and maybe even Jankowski (assuming Lindholm is a center) as wingers moving around the lineup around established pairs.


Who are the established pairs?

Gaudreau - Monahan
Tkachuk - Lindholm


If Lindholm stays as the top-line RW, I would actually like to see a 2nd line of Tkachuk - Bennett - Mangiapane for a stretch and finally close the book on the whole "Is Bennett a centre or a winger", as I feel that Bennett under Gulutzan was not properly utilized or developed. Maybe a stretch of 30 games or so.


Either way, I do think that Mangiapane should be in that conversation to get a long look as a top 6 winger, but perhaps ease him in as a third line winger on either side and see how he responds.
I agree I would like to try Bennett at C one more go before giving up on that idea but I would put Lindholm on his wing to provide some support:

Gaudreau-Monahan-
Tkachuk-Bennett-Lindholm

Trade Brodie for a top 6 RWer.
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Itís decent, nothing that the majority of NHLíers canít do when given the time and space that he had. Iím not trying to slag him, I hope he proves me wrong, I just donít see a top 6 player in him thatís all.
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Itís decent, nothing that the majority of NHLíers canít do when given the time and space that he had. Iím not trying to slag him, I hope he proves me wrong, I just donít see a top 6 player in him thatís all.
That's fair, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but everything about Mangiapane's development since getting drafted has pointed towards him becoming a top 6 NHLer.

He will never be a star, but it is quite reasonable that given an opportunity he could provide second line caliber production as early as next season.
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I think Mangiapane has potential to be a decent secondary scorer, hopefully a guy who can drive play offensively in a middle-6 slot. I could see him chipping in 40 points or so if he finds chemistry for a whole season.

But I do have to laugh at the double standard in terms of production between him and Bennett, who is a few months younger.
  • Mangiapane scores at a 24 point pace, including a segment down the stretch where he scored at a 31 point pace: "Is he a potential top-6 forward?"
  • Bennett scores at a 31 point pace for the whole season: "He is what he is, just a bottom-6 grinder."

Depending how we split up the top 5 guys, I could see them either forming 2/3rds of a pretty effective 3rd line, or each being the 3rd guy on a line. I'd like to see a Mangiapane-Ryan-Bennett line tried as that's probably the closest thing we can recreate to the 4th line last year.
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