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Old 07-19-2019, 11:58 AM   #101
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There have been talks I don't think anything is going to come out of it. Treliving is no dummy to do a straight across trade. Holland and Co believe Bennett can be a different player with his childhood buddy.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:03 PM   #102
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Hearing from whom?

That trade would be awful for the Flames. Bennett hasnít lived up to expectations but it remains to be seen whether JP is or is not another Yakupov.
There is an opinion piece on the Athletic, but it appears to be by their blogger level guys, not the legit guys (like Duhatchek or Lebrun for example) who came to the site by virtue of being insiders / journalists

I am not aware that it is being discussed by anyone that matters
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:04 PM   #103
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The only information Iíve been able to find about something like this have been from the Athletic and some throwaway Staples article, both discussing why the respective teams might do it, not that itís actually been discussed.

The fact that Staples thinks it should happen might be a powerful clue that it absolutely should not. It only benefits the Oilers.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:09 PM   #104
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The concept of moving Bennett as a means of saving money that can go towards another contract has merit. The Flames are flush with LW talent, Bennett will most likely get a salary of at least $2.5M. Dube & Mangiapane will fill out the left side. Bennett would have to get a promotion to 2RW or he sort of falls off the map. The idea of him being dealt shouldn't be one that stuns anybody. For Puljujarvi? There have to be other, better deals if thats the road they choose to go down.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:12 PM   #105
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Hearing that Sam Bennet for Jesse Puljujarvi trade is being discussed. I'd be all over that.
Other than the article written in the athletic I highly doubt it.

What a brutal trade that would be for Calgary
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Old 07-20-2019, 09:30 AM   #106
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Hearing that Sam Bennet for Jesse Puljujarvi trade is being discussed. I'd be all over that.
Even Tre can't let Holland bend him over twice in one week?
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:14 PM   #107
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We should hear soon about Bennett and Rittich signings.
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Old 07-21-2019, 03:24 PM   #108
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Hearing that Sam Bennet for Jesse Puljujarvi trade is being discussed. I'd be all over that.

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Old 07-21-2019, 03:34 PM   #109
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^ Yes but the Flames would select 1yr or else he'd be UFA at the end of the 2nd year due to having 7 years in the league
No he would still be RFA. He only has 4 accrued seasons of service time. The Flames burned a year off his entry level deal the first year by going past 9 games. But since he played less than 40 games it was not an accrued season. Player needs 7 accrued seasons of service time to be UFA.
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1153781882883956736

He had similar numbers to Sam Bennett.
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Yeah depending on the levels they present to the arbitrator that has to be a close comparable. Since it tends to still be traditional counting stats that are used with arbitrators here are the last two seasons for each guy:

Copp:

GP: 151 G:20 A:33 P: 53 +/-: 37

Bennett:

GP: 153 G: 24 A: 29 P: 53 +/-: -24

That should pretty much set Bennett's market perfectly.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:04 PM   #112
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I think there is enough out there for Bennett to be signed before his hearing in 4 days.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:04 PM   #113
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2 x 2.25 isn’t too shabby for Bennett if it comes in around that.
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Old 07-23-2019, 04:34 PM   #114
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JT Compher just signed with the Avs for 4 yrs $3.5M AAV
Good comparable for Bennett to use in arbitration
Iím going to have to disagree. I think Compher is a better player. Although, with Kadri at 2C that either moves Compher to W or 3C. His upward trend could stall because of that.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:32 AM   #115
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speaking of arbitration,
Arbitrator awards Jets' Copp 2 years, $4.56M

https://www.tsn.ca/arbitrator-awards...-56m-1.1341177

According to Mike McIntyre of the Winnipeg Free Press, Copp asked for a one-year, $2.9 million contract from the arbitrator, while the Jets countered at a two-year deal worth a total of $3 million.

The 25-year-old Copp scored 11 goals and posted 25 points for the Jets this past season.

maybe Bennett would be better off not signing and taking his chances with the Arbitrator.
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Old 07-24-2019, 07:50 AM   #116
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speaking of arbitration,
Arbitrator awards Jets' Copp 2 years, $4.56M

https://www.tsn.ca/arbitrator-awards...-56m-1.1341177

According to Mike McIntyre of the Winnipeg Free Press, Copp asked for a one-year, $2.9 million contract from the arbitrator, while the Jets countered at a two-year deal worth a total of $3 million.

The 25-year-old Copp scored 11 goals and posted 25 points for the Jets this past season.

maybe Bennett would be better off not signing and taking his chances with the Arbitrator.
I didn't even know the arbitrator could give 2 years and at a lower AAV than either side proposed. Bizarre.
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I didn't even know the arbitrator could give 2 years and at a lower AAV than either side proposed. Bizarre.
it isn't, though. Jets wanted 1.5 per year, he got 2.28 AAV
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it isn't, though. Jets wanted 1.5 per year, he got 2.28 AAV
Shocklingly almost exactly halfway between the two sides. The difference might just be less than it cost to do the arbitration (2 lawyers plus arbitrator).
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:13 AM   #119
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Other than the article written in the athletic I highly doubt it.

What a brutal trade that would be for Calgary
Sadly, i thought the exact same thing about the Athletic articles suggesting Lucic for Neal was a possibility.

i think this would be a ghastly trade for calgary....

an established NHLer, of the type calgary doesn't have enough of, for a guy who is not even an NHLer... That would be a dumb trade.

pursuing Puljujarvi is fine, but you do it with assets with a similar level of risk or uncertainty... certainly not Bennett
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Old 07-24-2019, 09:24 AM   #120
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Seriously, a Bennett for pool party deal would be atrocious.
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