[Trade] Monahan and conditional 2025 1st to Montreal for future considerations

[sureLoss]

on TSN, Dreger says that Treliving tried to send Monahan to Arizona first. They thought they had a deal but it fell through.

https://www.tsn.ca/video/~2575637

[ComixZone]

Gaudreau was the super hot person at the bar that you hooked up with a few times, but couldn’t keep because they were out of your league.

Tkachuk was the complete package. The dream person. Your first love. They broke your heart.

Monahan? Monahan was the RIGHT person. The person next door you neglected, but shouldn’t have. The person that you reflect back on thinking “they were right for me all along”, but you blew it because you were busy dreaming of Gaudreau and chasing Tkachuk.

I miss Mony.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Gaudreau was the super hot person at the bar that you hooked up with a few times, but couldn’t keep because they were out of your league.

Tkachuk was the complete package. The dream person. Your first love. They broke your heart.

Monahan? Monahan was the RIGHT person. The person next door you neglected, but shouldn’t have. The person that you reflect back on thinking “they were right for me all along”, but you blew it because you were busy dreaming of Gaudreau and chasing Tkachuk.

I miss Mony.

This …
Hits….
Hard.

Truth hurts the most, wish we kept him.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Gaudreau was the super hot person at the bar that you hooked up with a few times, but couldn’t keep because they were out of your league.

Tkachuk was the complete package. The dream person. Your first love. They broke your heart.

Monahan? Monahan was the RIGHT person. The person next door you neglected, but shouldn’t have. The person that you reflect back on thinking “they were right for me all along”, but you blew it because you were busy dreaming of Gaudreau and chasing Tkachuk.

I miss Mony.

Losers in the Johnny thread are whining about people sounding like bitter exes and you’re over here saying “hold my beer.”

[Finger Cookin]

Monahan is a champ and deserves a great video package and a long standing O tonight.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Losers in the Johnny thread are whining about people sounding like bitter exes and you’re over here saying “hold my beer.”

I just don’t get negativity towards ex-players.

I became a season ticket holder in Johnny’s rookie season, and this past era (Sean, Johnny, Chucky, Gio) kind of became “my Flames” team. I was too young for the Stanley Cup team - I didn’t really become a fan until Ronnie Stern, Marty McInnis, Cory Stillman, Valeri Bure, and some kid with corn rows were on TV while Ed Whalen was talking about barns burning. My current level of fandom really started to set in around 2006/2007, and really hit stride with becoming a STH…I felt some attachment to that team (2014’ish onward) - watching Gaudreau, Mony and those guys develop into stars was fun.

…now, twenty some odd games into this new era, I’m kind of having problems connecting with the roster. So yeah, I miss Mony. I also miss Chucky and Johnny.

[Samonadreau]

I may be in the minority, but moving Mony was fine. It's giving away the first as well that made it a tough one.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I just don’t get negativity towards ex-players.

I became a season ticket holder in Johnny’s rookie season, and this past era (Sean, Johnny, Chucky, Gio) kind of became “my Flames” team. I was too young for the Stanley Cup team - I didn’t really become a fan until Ronnie Stern, Marty McInnis, Cory Stillman, Valeri Bure, and some kid with corn rows were on TV while Ed Whalen was talking about burns burning. My current level of fandom really started to set in around 2006/2007, and really hit stride with becoming a STH…I felt some attachment to that team (2014’ish onward) - watching Gaudreau, Mony and those guys develop into stars was fun.

…now, twenty some odd games into this new era, I’m kind of having problems connecting with the roster. So yeah, I miss Mony. I also miss Chucky and Johnny.

There is a definitely a void now. Say what you will about the players, but losing guys like Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and even Bennett means there’s really no young guys with big promise left to root for. There’s no wondering who on this roster is going to be the next #1, or whether they’re finally hit some untapped potential, or who could be the next closest thing to Iginla in terms of legacy. It’s just… eh.

Enjoy a lot of the guys on the team still but it’s missing a lot for me as well this year in terms of connection.

[powderjunkie]

Coming into this game, the Flames and Habs have identical pt % through 22 games.

3 Flames have scored more goals than Monahan. 4 Flames have more points.


Those statements are kinda cherry-picked, but they're still true.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

I may be in the minority, but moving Mony was fine. It's giving away the first as well that made it a tough one.

I'm with you on this 100%. But people will argue that it's like trading Mony and a 1st for Kadri even though Kadri was a UFA.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by genetic_phreek

I'm with you on this 100%. But people will argue that it's like trading Mony and a 1st for Kadri even though Kadri was a UFA.

Well, if the Canadiens had signed Kadri to that deal a day earlier, would you offer them that trade?

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Well, if the Canadiens had signed Kadri to that deal a day earlier, would you offer them that trade?

Yes. Kadri was coming off a monster year, Mohanan was a question mark coming off major surgeries.

Mony is having a great season thus far, and it's easy to second-guess with the benefit of hindsight. But there was no way of knowing for sure that things would unfold the way they have. That said, I still think Kadri finishes the season with significantly more points than Mony.

[dino7c]

Kadri is also a Flame next season and Monahan wouldn't have been

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Yes. Kadri was coming off a monster year, Mohanan was a question mark coming off major surgeries.

Mony is having a great season thus far, and it's easy to second-guess with the benefit of hindsight. But there was no way of knowing for sure that things would unfold the way they have. That said, I still think Kadri finishes the season with significantly more points than Mony.

Yeah. I think the only way to criticize the Monahan trade specifically is if you can answer "no" to the hypothetical trade question I posed (which is a defensible response, even back in the summer).

[ComixZone]

Wrong thread.

[Steve Bozek]

He’s a solid middle 6 player and I appreciate Kadri’s grit and drive, but he’s not likely to ever get to the production he had last season. Based on what I’ve seen to date, I’d rather have 1 year of a younger and healthy Monahan (with the possibility of him signing for more), plus another 1st round draft pick, than 7 more years of an aging Kadri.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kadri is also a Flame next season and Monahan wouldn't have been

Maybe, maybe not. He could have re-signed.

And That might not be a positive with a $7M price tag for Kadri

[DeluxeMoustache]

Monahan 1, Tkachuk -2

[Ashasx]

This is looking like another abysmal trade for BT.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Well, if the Canadiens had signed Kadri to that deal a day earlier, would you offer them that trade?

No I would not,, see Steve Bozeks comment ^^^^^

Also, there's a lot of ifs scenarios with this which I don't see or agree with. For me it's always the current situation, you have a 1st, you have Monahan, you have no cap space. It's the sequence of events. I'm indifferent about the Kadri signing because I'm not a fan of signing aging UFA coming off career years similar to Coleman.

I'd much rather kept Monahan and tried to trade him mid year, still have our first and still have flexibility. Right now we have zero flexibility especially next year, don't have our 1st as currency for the future and Monahan is having a better year.

I didn't like the trade then when it happened, I don't like it now, I probably won't like it in the future. That's just my opinion.