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Old 06-28-2016, 07:24 PM   #1761
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LlI think some people on this thread are over thinking this thing circei.

While she loved her children and loves Jamie, I never got the impression that she was as devoted to them as they were to her with the exception of Jeffrey, who was probably the most like circei.

When we see the prophecy she gets as a child, for me, once Joffrey dies it is confirmation for her that the prophecy will indeed come to pass, and begins the process of mourning by being more distant. Her interactions with tommen this season were cold and distant I thought, even for her.

She is acting out if self interest and always will. While tommen death might not have been the purpose of the explosion, it is the somewhat predictable blowback. I think the dressing scene at the beginning with her clad in black is her accepting her fate and moving forward. The only thing left for her now was to take the crown and wait for the prophecy conclude.
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Old 06-28-2016, 07:39 PM   #1762
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LlI think some people on this thread are over thinking this thing circei.

While she loved her children and loves Jamie, I never got the impression that she was as devoted to them as they were to her with the exception of Jeffrey, who was probably the most like circei.

When we see the prophecy she gets as a child, for me, once Joffrey dies it is confirmation for her that the prophecy will indeed come to pass, and begins the process of mourning by being more distant. Her interactions with tommen this season were cold and distant I thought, even for her.

She is acting out if self interest and always will. While tommen death might not have been the purpose of the explosion, it is the somewhat predictable blowback. I think the dressing scene at the beginning with her clad in black is her accepting her fate and moving forward. The only thing left for her now was to take the crown and wait for the prophecy conclude.
Disagree, she's trying to stop the prophecy. I don't think she wanted Tommen dead, or even had the slightest that he'd kill himself.

Her blowing up the sept is her way of stopping the "younger queen" from taking her down. I don't think she knows how strong Dany is yet.
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LlI think some people on this thread are over thinking this thing circei.

While she loved her children and loves Jamie, I never got the impression that she was as devoted to them as they were to her with the exception of Jeffrey, who was probably the most like circei.

When we see the prophecy she gets as a child, for me, once Joffrey dies it is confirmation for her that the prophecy will indeed come to pass, and begins the process of mourning by being more distant. Her interactions with tommen this season were cold and distant I thought, even for her.

She is acting out if self interest and always will. While tommen death might not have been the purpose of the explosion, it is the somewhat predictable blowback. I think the dressing scene at the beginning with her clad in black is her accepting her fate and moving forward. The only thing left for her now was to take the crown and wait for the prophecy conclude.
Cerci loves nothing more then her children, all of them.

It is the only thing that makes her human or relatable. Loosing tommen hurt her a great deal.

Watch the "making of Episode 10" for some evidence, or go back through her lines on the show.
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Circei loves herself more than her children.
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Old 06-28-2016, 08:10 PM   #1765
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Disagree, she's trying to stop the prophecy. I don't think she wanted Tommen dead, or even had the slightest that he'd kill himself.

Her blowing up the sept is her way of stopping the "younger queen" from taking her down. I don't think she knows how strong Dany is yet.
I think she's subconsciously making the prophecy reality. Didn't she kill her friend immediately after hearing the prophecy? The first step in the prophecy.
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I think she's subconsciously making the prophecy reality. Didn't she kill her friend immediately after hearing the prophecy? The first step in the prophecy.
Exactly, her knowing it, and trying to stop it is causing it to play out.
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Cerci loves nothing more then her children, all of them.

It is the only thing that makes her human or relatable. Loosing tommen hurt her a great deal.

Watch the "making of Episode 10" for some evidence, or go back through her lines on the show.
Remember what she tells Sansa about what a monster Robert was and the only way to get through it was thinking about her kids.
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Exactly, her knowing it, and trying to stop it is causing it to play out.
Interesting. Similar to Bran and the red priestess. The ink is dry. People pursuing or attempting to avoid future outcomes is what causes them.
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Also, can we all agree that it's way more interesting if Rhaegar didn't kidnap and rape Lyanna and that she willingly went with him? Or am I in the minority on that?

Noble Stark shirks her engagement to run off with another man. Robert starts a war over a woman that didn't really want him. An extra layer of tragedy over the entire story.
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Also, can we all agree that it's way more interesting if Rhaegar didn't kidnap and rape Lyanna and that she willingly went with him? Or am I in the minority on that?

Noble Stark shirks her engagement to run off with another man. Robert starts a war over a woman that didn't really want him. An extra layer of tragedy over the entire story.
Robert sounds like he was always a womanizer, if he was that way back then I could see her leaving to be with someone else
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I think she's subconsciously making the prophecy reality. Didn't she kill her friend immediately after hearing the prophecy? The first step in the prophecy.
I can't remember that part of the flash back. Was it implied later?
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Also, can we all agree that it's way more interesting if Rhaegar didn't kidnap and rape Lyanna and that she willingly went with him? Or am I in the minority on that?

Noble Stark shirks her engagement to run off with another man. Robert starts a war over a woman that didn't really want him. An extra layer of tragedy over the entire story.
I had assumed this is exactly what happened. Littlefinger's knowing smirk when Sansa brings up the kidnap/rape story. Barristan reminiscing about how gentle, kind and artistic Rhaegar was. it seems pretty clear that painting Rhaegar as another Targaryan monster was very helpful and convenient for Robert's rebellion. though it's also very likely that Robert had no idea it was mutual love and without more information just assumed it was a forceful taking.
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I had assumed this is exactly what happened. Littlefinger's knowing smirk when Sansa brings up the kidnap/rape story. Barristan reminiscing about how gentle, kind and artistic Rhaegar was. it seems pretty clear that painting Rhaegar as another Targaryan monster was very helpful and convenient for Robert's rebellion. though it's also very likely that Robert had no idea it was mutual love and without more information just assumed it was a forceful taking.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:18 AM   #1778
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So the directors of Season 7 episodes have been revealed
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/29...rones-season-7

Most notable changes: the director of "Hardhome", "Battle of the #######s" and "Winds of Winter" Miguel Sapochnik and David Nutter, who directed "Mother's Mercy" and "Red Wedding" will not be directing anything next season.will not be doing any episodes for the seventh season.

Jeremy Podeswa, the director of "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" and "Home" will be back as well.

Mark Mylod, the director of some of the worst episodes this season "Broken Man" and "No One" and Shameless, will be directing parts of next season.

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So the directors of Season 7 episodes have been revealed
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/29...rones-season-7

Most notable changes: the director of "Hardhome", "Battle of the #######s" and "Winds of Winter" Miguel Sapochnik and David Nutter, who directed "Mother's Mercy" and "Red Wedding" will not be directing anything next season.will not be doing any episodes for the seventh season.

Jeremy Podeswa, the director of "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" and "Home" will be back as well.

Mark Mylod, the director of some of the worst episodes this season "Broken Man" and "No One" and Shameless, will be directing parts of next season.

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Old 06-29-2016, 10:28 AM   #1780
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Cerci loves nothing more then her children, all of them.

It is the only thing that makes her human or relatable. Loosing tommen hurt her a great deal.

Watch the "making of Episode 10" for some evidence, or go back through her lines on the show.
Cersei has said several things to suggest she doesn't care about her children as much as she says to everyone.

When she last saw Jaime, she basically said nobody else matters. 'Nothing else matters, only our love'. She didn't include Tommen in this circle of love. At this point she already accepted that Tommen was going to die as per the prophecy.

If she truly loved her children, then she wouldn't have blown up her last remaining child's wife whom he really loved. In the religious sept where Tommen worshiped his newly found gods. This was a selfish choice that would only have a positive result for Cersei.

If Cersei didn't restrict Tommen from entering the sept, she would of been seen as the murderer of the king. Everyone knows that it was the queen who pulled the trigger on this. It was more to save her own ass then to protect her son.
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