ESPN Player Rankings Update

[Bingo]

Top 250 players showing the rank, and last week's rank

http://espn.go.com/fantasy/hockey/st...atest-rankings

Filtered Flames results for discussion

Rank Player Pos. Rank Last Week (change) Team
83 Jiri Hudler, RW, Cgy F55 100 (17) Cgy
105 Dennis Wideman, D, Cgy D18 125 (20) Cgy
125 Sean Monahan, C, Cgy F82 145 (20) Cgy
128 Johnny Gaudreau, LW, Cgy F84 159 (31) Cgy
165 Jonas Hiller, G, Cgy G26 170 (5) Cgy
166 Kris Russell, D, Cgy D36 216 (50) Cgy
182 T.J. Brodie, D, Cgy D41 178 (-4) Cgy

Calgary has 7 players in the list, Edmonton 6

Rank Player Pos. Rank Last Week (change) Team
107 Jordan Eberle, RW, Edm F68 119 (12) Edm
131 Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C, Edm F85 146 (15) Edm
147 Taylor Hall, LW, Edm F93 139 (-8) Edm
232 Benoit Pouliot, LW, Edm F146 231 (-4) Edm
233 Justin Schultz, D, Edm D54 232 (-4) Edm
244 Ben Scrivens, G, Edm G37 241 (-6) Edm

Calgary is ranked in a tie for 22nd for # of players on the list, but higher in average ranking (136.3) 18th.

Row Labels Count of Player
Det 12
Bos 12
Ana 11
TB 11
StL 11
NYR 10
NYI 10
Nsh 10
Chi 10
Wpg 10
Pit 9
Ott 9
Fla 9
Min 9
Col 8
Car 8
Van 8
LA 8
Cls 8
Mon 8
Dal 8
Was 7
Cgy 7
SJ 7
Phi 7
Edm 6
Tor 6
NJ 5
Ari 4
Buf 2

Row Labels Average of Rank
Pit 58.7
Mon 75.3
SJ 81.0
Phi 86.9
LA 89.5
NYR 93.4
StL 94.5
Nsh 96.5
Was 98.6
Chi 108.1
TB 113.5
Min 122.0
Cls 126.5
Det 127.3
Ana 128.6
Dal 134.4
NYI 136.1
Cgy 136.3
Wpg 136.5
Col 137.1
Ott 138.0
Van 144.5
Tor 156.8
Bos 161.1
NJ 170.4
Fla 172.4
Ari 176.3
Edm 182.3
Car 195.1
Buf 227.0

[ForeverFlameFan]

The Flames are underrated.

[Sakic19]

After the road trip would have thought Ramo would have made it, especially ahead of Scrivens.

[Bingo]

keep in mind Giordano has been wiped from the list.

Surprised that Wideman is ahead of Brodie.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Bingo

keep in mind Giordano has been wiped from the list.

Surprised that Wideman is ahead of Brodie.

Isn't this just fantasy rankings? Wideman gets more points, so it makes sense.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

These rankings are for fantasy hockey discussions, no?

[Weitz]

Shouldn't it be noted this is for Fantasy Hockey?

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Bingo

keep in mind Giordano has been wiped from the list.

Surprised that Wideman is ahead of Brodie.

Lots of PP points for Wideman, which is a key in fantasy.
Plus, since Giordano has been hurt, Brodie is lugging around Engelland - which is dropping his value a lot due to decreased production.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Seeing as this is fantasy rankings, it's perfectly fine.

After the top line and top 4, the next highest producer for the Flames has been Bouma with 28 points. Backlund might be a bit of an omission because of injuries, but he doesn't take many PIM or shots so it's understandable.

[CroFlames]

Fantasy rankings and actual player rankings are different, obviously.

Wideman is a way better fantasy guy than Brodie, but I'd take Brodie over any Oiler player any day in real life. But on this list he is ranked 182nd. So yeah.

I was killing my pool this year until Kaner & Gio went down, and Rinne was out for like 6 weeks.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Having Eberle ranked ahead of Monahan certainly is a fantasy.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

EDIT: Eh, they're fantasy rankings. Whatever.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Bingo

keep in mind Giordano has been wiped from the list.

Surprised that Wideman is ahead of Brodie.

Wideman has been better than Brodie in all aspects IMO, not just points since Gio's injury.

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Wideman has been better than Brodie in all aspects IMO, not just points since Gio's injury.

Well that's an uphill battle if I've ever seen one

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

Well that's an uphill battle if I've ever seen one

Wideman playing about 28mins a game in the last 5, 6pts, +7. Brodie playing about 23 mins a game, 2 points, -2.

Not sure it's that up hill unless people want to deny the reality of it. The only argument you could make in Brodie's favour is the coach hasn't really asked him or given him the opportunity to step up the way he has with Wideman and Russell, which would be true, but to the point of the thread, even if it is only because the opportunity has been denied, doesn't change the fact that Wideman has been more impressive post Gio injury.

[Enoch Root]

Tiny sample size. And Brodie is playing with Engelland

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Tiny sample size. And Brodie is playing with Engelland

I can't see any way it doesn't continue.
You take your best guy and pair him with the guy who needs to play beyond where he should slot in.
I don't think that's going to change, and I like the strategy.
So Brodie takes the hit - fantasy wise.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Tiny sample size. And Brodie is playing with Engelland

Sure, but your missing the point, it doesn't matter why it is, or how long it's been, all I'm saying is Wideman has been better than Brodie, post Gio injury. Not saying anything beyond that. It might entirely be because he's been paired with Engelland (although I do believe this board drastically over rates where Brodie is at the current moment in his development curve because he's a board sweetheart due to his age, game style and playing with Gio has masked some of his opportunities, but that's another matter), but the fact is, over this small sample size, Wideman has outplayed Brodie.

[silentsim]

Originally Posted by Sakic19

After the road trip would have thought Ramo would have made it, especially ahead of Scrivens.

But Edmonton is the real deal!

[BurningSteel]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

Having Eberle ranked ahead of Monahan certainly is a fantasy.

or a nightmare