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View Poll Results: Best guess at Sam Bennett's contract
2 years $6M ($3/) 34 5.57%
2 years $5.5M 62 10.16%
2 years $5M 105 17.21%
2 years $4.5M 118 19.34%
2 years $4M 55 9.02%
3 years $9M 53 8.69%
3 years $8.25M 47 7.70%
3 years $7.5M 54 8.85%
3 years $6.75M 30 4.92%
3 years $6M 10 1.64%
1 year deal 8 1.31%
Long Term deal 34 5.57%
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Old 05-03-2017, 07:52 AM   #21
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Are you suggesting a bridge deal worth $25 million? I sure hope not!
You're our new city engineer. If you can get a bridge done for 25 mil going over a river, consider yourself hired!

Bennett - 2 years @ 2.15m.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:05 AM   #22
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The title kept me out of this thread...since I thought it was "What will Sam Bennett get" in a trade. He should get 2 years at 1.95MM.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:11 AM   #23
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Pretty much any amount of term puts him in line to need an extension when another core player needs one.
1 year- Backlund
2 years- Tkachuk
3 years - Brodie
4 years- Hamilton
5 years- Gaudreau
6 years - Monahan

I don't see Bennett getting more than 3 years unless he takes a 6-7 year deal in the $4.5M per range which would be dumb on his part and risky on the Flames part (risk worth taking if Bennett wanted to do it)

At the end of the day I see a 2 year $5M deal for a AAV of $2.5M
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:12 AM   #24
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I'd like something similar to the Rakell deal (6x3.8m) but that's because I believe he'll turn into a solid 60 point guy. What he'll probably get is 3 x 2.5 ish.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:34 AM   #25
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Signing him to a bridge deal would be a wasted opportunity. We don't need cap space in the near term. We'll need it long term once backlund and Tkachuk cash in. They should be leveraging the slow start to his career to get him signed long term at a low cap hit. 8 years for 4.575 million would be perfect. It would be a win win for both sides. (2.2milx3) + (6milx5) = 36.6/8= 4.575mil How much more than 6 mil per year does Bennett actually think he'll be worth after his bridge deal? He gets long term certainty and doesn't leave much potential money on the table. If the Flames still believe in his potential, they get a stud signed long term at a great cap hit. If he doesn't quite pan out, 4.575 isn't horrible for a skilled player with gritt.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:36 AM   #26
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I really liked how he played in the playoffs; would like him signed to a 3 year deal if possible around the $2.5/year mark
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I liked the late season improvement. I think this is a real opportunity to get him for term and price that will benefit the team. I think it could be more or less like the Backlund deal (only for somewhat lower salary) where it gets done before the big leap in performance.

Sure there's risk that he won't improve. But there's equal or more risk that a bridge deal costs the Flames either the player or money in two years.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:41 AM   #28
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It takes 2 to tango and i don't see Bennett or his agent wanting to do more than a 2 year bridge deal unless there are some real $'s attached to it. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up a one year deal.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:50 AM   #29
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This is a tricky one. I think if you get long term at a reasonable price, you do it. 6 years around $4 million?
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:57 AM   #30
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All I have to say is why couldn't the Flames can't tank properly get Draisaitl instead.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:13 AM   #31
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I hope - or 7 years, 4M. I believe in Sam Bennett.

What I think he'll get? 3 years, 2.85M per - nearly identical to Galchenyuk's bridge.
$28 million dollar gamble? I know it's not our money but that's just insane. Bennett should get 2 years max at $2.5 million max. Even if he pans out he's likely only a $4.5-$5 million dollar player and that's likely not for 3-5 years. You're pretty much throwing away money if you make that deal.

And Bennett would likely not accept anything longer than a two year bridge contract.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:31 AM   #32
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$28 million dollar gamble? I know it's not our money but that's just insane. Bennett should get 2 years max at $2.5 million max. Even if he pans out he's likely only a $4.5-$5 million dollar player and that's likely not for 3-5 years. You're pretty much throwing away money if you make that deal.

And Bennett would likely not accept anything longer than a two year bridge contract.
All it is going to take is a couple 60+ point seasons for Bennett to command $5-&6M coming out of his bridge deal. I don't see anyway he signs long term for anything less than $5M per which is why I see a bridge as the only way to go.

If he pans out he will be more than a $4.5-$5M player. Bennett panning out means he overtakes Monahan as our legit number 1 centre. This guy was the top rated skater by central scouting when drafted. His skill, speed and grit gave him a very high ceiling.
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All I have to say is why couldn't the Flames can't tank properly get Draisaitl instead.
If the Flames picked third in that draft I would have wanted Bennett then as well. I was ecstatic the Oilers took Draisaitl over Bennett. Obviously 3 years later Leon is the far better player but it is still early
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:36 AM   #35
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Overpay for length.

A Klefbom contract would be unreal. But even a 3.25M x 3 would be alright
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:42 AM   #36
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If the Flames picked third in that draft I would have wanted Bennett then as well. I was ecstatic the Oilers took Draisaitl over Bennett. Obviously 3 years later Leon is the far better player but it is still early
I am also still not convinced that he would be as good a fit with the Flames. At the time I worried about having the top two centres on the team with limited footspeed. Also, I do not believe that Draisaitl would have seen the same time on the wing in Calgary as he did in Edmonton, nor do I think he would have recorded a 70-point season.
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Draisatl already is one of the best passers in the league, has extremely good vision and high IQ.

He's better than Bennett and it's not even close. You can say it's still early but it's also still early for Draisatl and he can even get better.
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Draisatl already is one of the best passers in the league, has extremely good vision and high IQ.

He's better than Bennett and it's not even close. You can say it's still early but it's also still early for Draisatl and he can even get better.
Yeah, I get that. But my point was that I don't think Draisatl would be as successful a player playing in Calgary as he is in Edmonton.
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Draisatl already is one of the best passers in the league, has extremely good vision and high IQ.

He's better than Bennett and it's not even close. You can say it's still early but it's also still early for Draisatl and he can even get better.
Leon also isn't going to get a bridge deal - he's going to get a Johnny/Sean contract.

There are teams out there who took these gambles, and look like geniuses. If the team believes in Sam Bennett, then they should absolutely overpay in the short term to gain length on the cheap.

Those throwing around sub-2M contracts over 2 years, you're off by a million dollars. Go look around the league at comparable contracts. Also, from a cap-management standpoint, doing a 2 year bridge could lead to some cap-struggles in 2 years time when Tkachuk and Bennett will need extensions and we're still paying Brouwer and Frolik a combined 8.8M. At the minimum, you get 3 years to ensure the cap-crunch doesn't take place.

Also, comparing Draisaitl to Bennett doesn't make much sense at this stage. Draisaitl is a winger, and happens to play with the best centre in the league. Bennett is a centre, who got to play with Troy Brouwer. If you want to go down the path of undervaluing our players, go nuts - but try not to gush over a player who was gifted the best wing position in the league.

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Leon also isn't going to get a bridge deal - he's going to get a Johnny/Sean contract.

There are teams out there who took these gambles, and look like geniuses. If the team believes in Sam Bennett, then they should absolutely overpay in the short term to gain length on the cheap.

Those throwing around sub-2M contracts over 2 years, you're off by a million dollars. Go look around the league at comparable contracts. Also, from a cap-management standpoint, doing a 2 year bridge could lead to some cap-struggles in 2 years time when Tkachuk and Bennett will need extensions and we're still paying Brouwer and Frolik a combined 8.8M. At the minimum, you get 3 years to ensure the cap-crunch doesn't take place.

Also, comparing Draisaitl to Bennett doesn't make much sense at this stage. Draisaitl is a winger, and happens to play with the best centre in the league. Bennett is a centre, who got to play with Troy Brouwer. If you want to go down the path of undervaluing our players, go nuts - but try not to gush over a player who was gifted the best wing position in the league.
The winger part is important. Obviously Leon had an unreal year but he hasn't taken his lumps at center yet. His numbers go off a cliff when he's not with McDavid. Be interesting to see how much of a leash he has when he's making 7 million and has some growing pains. I assume they'll put him at center next year.
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