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Old 04-15-2019, 12:08 PM   #141
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So, Makar would be making his playoff debut in Colorado's top four even if Girard was healthy?

Top six, at least. Probably on a pairing with Cole if I had to take a wild stab at it to start.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:08 PM   #142
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Bill Peters just spoke one-on-one with James Neal, Mark Jankowski and Sam Bennett. Keep an eye on that line tonight...they can be game-changers for #Flames. #CGYvsCOL
"Neal and Jankowski, play more like Bennett."
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:09 PM   #143
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Splitting up Andersson-Fantenberg away from home also makes sense. As bad as Brodie’s dumb plays can be, he’s overall an effective and quick D who will hopefully make the Avs matchups less lopsided.
You could do a lot worse than Fantenberg/Brodie as your bottom pair. Especially on the road when you don't have last change -- would rather have Brodie's mobility paired with Fantenberg who is more of a stay at home guy. Also, Brodie plays better when his minutes are down (and, not surprisingly, with better zone starts).
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:09 PM   #144
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I will donate $30 to CP if Neal scores a goal tonight.
I will also add an additional $10 if both Neal scores and flames win tonight.
Neal has been a HUGE disappointment. Make me pay the piper Real Deal!
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:10 PM   #145
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You mean the 4th overall pick who just led the entire NCAA in scoring as a 20 year old.... as a defenseman...?



Guy is tracking to be a top pair superstar, this ain't a conversation about depth.
It clearly is when our own first overall pick, who also happens to be a defenceman, and who by all accounts is ready for prime time cannot even crack our lineup right now.

Sorry to say, but that by definition is a conversation about depth my friend and Calgary has a significant edge.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:11 PM   #146
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Looks like Peters is just moving Andersson up with Giordano and Brodie down with Fantenberg

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#Flames projected lines, pairings and goaltenders for Game 3 vs. #Avalanche:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
Mangiapane-Ryan-Hathaway

Giordano-Andersson
Hanifin-Hamonic
Fantenberg-Brodie

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Peters is giving these guys one more chance. If the Flames lose and don't control the game, I could see big changes like Fantenberg, Jankowski, Brodie out and Valimaki, Dube, Stone in.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:13 PM   #147
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Peters spoke one on one with three guys. Thanks, Wills.
Another hot take from Derek "Admiral Plain Vanilla" Wills.

James: Skate like you aren't in quicksand. Shoot like your hands aren't made of concrete.

Jankowski: You are 6'4" 220. Maybe throw a shoulder into someone.

Bennett: You eliminated Girard, and have 3 points in two games. Well done. Re-target your lasers on Rantanen and Barrie.

Nice individual, one on one talk. I think we really figured things out as a group here.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:14 PM   #148
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I don't think Jankowski is the best centre for Neal. Ryan or Backlund would be better, or even Lindholm or Bennett.
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It clearly is when our own first overall pick, who also happens to be a defenceman, and who by all accounts is ready for prime time cannot even crack our lineup right now.

Valimaki was selected 17th overall in the same draft Makar was selected 4th. Where did you get first overall from?


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I don't think Jankowski is the best centre for Neal. Ryan or Backlund would be better, or even Lindholm or Bennett.


I agree.


Jankowski played his best hockey with Jagr. I think he'd be at his best on a line with Tkachuk and Backlund doing the primary cycling for him. He's a good player but the center position holds him back IMO.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:18 PM   #150
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No kidding Peters is talking with that trio. That will be the target for Bednar and the MacKinnon line.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:19 PM   #151
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I'd be oh so much more comfortable if the top line has a 'pre-ASG' showing tonight.

Having said that, even if the top line is MIA again, I think with a bit more effort from the other guys we come away with a win tonight. If top line also chips in.....could be a dominant Flames win.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:21 PM   #152
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I don't think Jankowski is the best centre for Neal. Ryan or Backlund would be better, or even Lindholm or Bennett.
Unfortunately the best centre for Neal is centre ice in the press box. I think his body retired and forgot to tell him.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:24 PM   #153
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Valimaki was selected 17th overall in the same draft Makar was selected 4th. Where did you get first overall from?
Obviously the conversation is not about where in the first round they were selected....both players were their teams first round picks that year and Valimaki is primed to be more impactful than Makar at this point - he's actually been playing as a pro all year vs NCAA competition. It's not even close. You can argue a forward can pull it off, but I'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find much of a track record of an NCAA player stepping into the playoffs and contributing at more than a replacement level.

Girard is hurt and the Avs are out of options beyond Makar unless they want to put a Prout level player into the lineup in Barbiero. No depth. At least the Flames can go to Stone, Valimaki, Kylington before they have to dip into relative AHL level or Collegiate level players after their first injury. Depth.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:27 PM   #154
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I don't think Jankowski is the best centre for Neal. Ryan or Backlund would be better, or even Lindholm or Bennett.
Prime Datsyuk isn’t the right center for James Neal because James Neal is terrible.
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I think we can all agree the Flames have another gear in them.

I think the Avs have played as good as they possibly can given their lineup and were 2 minutes from being down 2-0. I don't see another gear possible from the Avs and I don't think they will be any better than they have been thru 2 games.

Flames have that extra gear(maybe even two) and I think we see one of those tonight.


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Old 04-15-2019, 12:30 PM   #156
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Another hot take from Derek "Admiral Plain Vanilla" Wills...
Why complain about this? It seems weird to criticize a guy for providing mundane information about a Flames practice to a fanbase that is rabid for any information.
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I knew the Flames would lose one, figured it'd be game 3, but oh well, now win the next 3. Flames win 5-2 including an empty netter, but the outcome never really seems in doubt.
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Old 04-15-2019, 12:34 PM   #158
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I might be wrong about this since I’ve been wrong about pretty much everything so far these playoffs but Makar will step in and he will be the 3rd or 4th best skater out there tonight on either team.

He is insanely good at hockey and his game will be perfect for the playoffs. Game 2 was a must win for me because I think the addition of another superstar in Makar to the Avs is going to make it pretty hard for the Flames to win 3 out of 5.

Regardless, go Flames. I want a long run!
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Probably went something like this...

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I might be wrong about this since I’ve been wrong about pretty much everything so far these playoffs but Makar will step in and he will be the 3rd or 4th best skater out there tonight on either team.

He is insanely good at hockey and his game will be perfect for the playoffs. Game 2 was a must win for me because I think the addition of another superstar in Makar to the Avs is going to make it pretty hard for the Flames to win 3 out of 5.

Regardless, go Flames. I want a long run!
It took Gaudreau 6 pre-season and 10 regular to get acclimeitized so I don’t see Makar making a difference yet.
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