Matthew Tkachuk & Johnny Gaudreau Signing Watch Thread

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

…… no duh.

Hahaha tell that to the people that don’t think they have to pay crazy dollars to keep him and he is going to sign for whatever for sure. Some on this thread.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Ryan Coke

I remember Lewis Gross hiring someone to try to boost Gaudreau’s value on here last time (which I found spectacularly distasteful). Makes me wonder if he would do the same this time, or maybe try to get an existing poster to fill the same role.

Wait.?!?! Gaudreauvertime was hired by Lewis Gross?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by browntrout

I actually think they should completely abolish the lottery. Have a draft committee oversee the entire process, and decide the drafting order for the league.

You have got to be kidding.

The draft committee has decided to award Bedard to "x" team.

Oh that will work just fine.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

You have got to be kidding.

The draft committee has decided to award Bedard to "x" team.

Oh that will work just fine.

Toronto video review team or the NHL discipline team come to mind

They have no bias and very fair and consistent

[Roof-Daddy]

A draft committee to decide the order of the draft?

Haha

That is one of the worst ideas I think I've ever heard.

Give more power to the biased boneheads that can't even figure out what a ####ing kicking motion is

[FanIn80]

So basically what you guys are all saying is that there's no news yet.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

A draft committee to decide the order of the draft?

Haha

That is one of the worst ideas I think I've ever heard.

Give more power to the biased boneheads that can't even figure out what a ####ing kicking motion is

Maybe they shouldn't even play the games? Too much randomness in hockey anyway, let the committee meet at the start of the year and award the Stanley Cup to the most deserving team.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Wait.?!?! Gaudreauvertime was hired by Lewis Gross?

Isn’t that something that CP just collectively decided and didn’t have any evidence to back it up outside of his posting essentially stopping after the contract was signed.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Makar IMO is a teir above Johnny or Tkachuk.

Johnny is a special player, but Makar looks like he could be a generational player. Is even McDavid more valuable than a guy who can neutralize him and his line while still putting up points?

Pretty decent chance we see Makar with a cup and a Conn Smythe trophy at age 23. Johnny is special, but not that special

[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Johnny is a special player, but Makar looks like he could be a generational player. Is even McDavid more valuable than a guy who can neutralize him and his line while still putting up points?

Pretty decent chance we see Makar with a cup and a Conn Smythe trophy at age 23. Johnny is special, but not that special

Makar is an absolute super star and maybe the best skater we've seen in a long time. I'll stop short of comparisons with Orr because A: I'm 65 and did watch Orr on HNIC back in the day.(I saw the Leafs win that cup in 67') B: It's been a long time and it's a totally different era however I still saw Orr as even more game dominant and C: Orr won the scoring title and is to date the only D Man ever to do it.

When Maker wins the scoring title I'll put him in the same class as Orr or considering todays NHL even better. Until then he's a superstar and lets see the rest of the career.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Johnny is a special player, but Makar looks like he could be a generational player. Is even McDavid more valuable than a guy who can neutralize him and his line while still putting up points?

Pretty decent chance we see Makar with a cup and a Conn Smythe trophy at age 23. Johnny is special, but not that special

Yeah, I would trade both signed Johnny and Tkachuk for Makar

He is the most valuable on that team not Mackinnon

[powderjunkie]

In a restart-the-league draft Makar almost certainly goes #1, in both scenarios if you include existing contracts or not (ie. you'd have to sign new contracts with every player)

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

In a restart-the-league draft Makar almost certainly goes #1, in both scenarios if you include existing contracts or not (ie. you'd have to sign new contracts with every player)

Hes top 3 but I do think teams value centers so much that mcdavid and matthews go 1-2 with makar 3

[Badgers Nose]

Anyone else have the fear yet?



https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r3TaixVn8Jo

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Hes top 3 but I do think teams value centers so much that mcdavid and matthews go 1-2 with makar 3

Mackinnon goes #2, not Matthews.
But I agree most people would put Makar after the centres.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Hes top 3 but I do think teams value centers so much that mcdavid and matthews go 1-2 with makar 3

Perhaps, but if you factor contract value and age it's pretty tough to argue against Makar.

5x9M vs. 4x12.5M vs. 2x11.64M


MacKinnon 1x6.3M and then say 8x12M would be a closer call.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by GS Skier

Makar is an absolute super star and maybe the best skater we've seen in a long time. I'll stop short of comparisons with Orr because A: I'm 65 and did watch Orr on HNIC back in the day.(I saw the Leafs win that cup in 67') B: It's been a long time and it's a totally different era however I still saw Orr as even more game dominant and C: Orr won the scoring title and is to date the only D Man ever to do it.

When Maker wins the scoring title I'll put him in the same class as Orr or considering todays NHL even better. Until then he's a superstar and lets see the rest of the career.

I'm not prepared to call him Orr's equal either.

But he is starting to show that he may be the best defenseman since Orr. But yes, we need more data.

[Enoch Root]

In a league-wide draft with all fresh contracts, I would guess that it goes:

1) McDavid
2/3) MacKinnon/Makar
4) Matthews

But if it were up to me, I would probably take Makar #1 - first, because of his age, 2nd, because his skill set is more rare than the forwards, and third, because a defenseman can control a game more than a forward.

[powderjunkie]

Here’s a fun question: who’s the RHD GOAT?

Most of the greats are LH…off the top of my head MacInnis and Chelios from the previous generations, but I’m sure I’m missing more.

Weber, Burns, Doughty could be near the conversation, but not at the top. Same for Zubov


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[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Here’s a fun question: who’s the RHD GOAT?

Most of the greats are LH…off the top of my head MacInnis and Chelios from the previous generations, but I’m sure I’m missing more.

Weber, Burns, Doughty could be near the conversation, but not at the top. Same for Zubov


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Wasn't Lidstrom an RD?

Edit: I seem to remember him on the left side a lot, but I also have it in my head that he played the right side... which would gel if he was coming up the ice (into the camera) on the left

Edit 2: I know he's a left shot, but that doesn't preclude him from playing the right side