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Old 01-12-2018, 12:04 PM   #21
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Yeebus.

They've won 5 in a row and the PP is still a trainwreck. Let's not get too silly here.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:05 PM   #22
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It's not about just winning games. It's about the top two teams above us losing them.

Which means we HAVE to beat them when we play them. We have to cost them points. That's how you get first place.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:08 PM   #23
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I'd say there is a 50% chance we will lead the league by the end of the year.

Either we will, or we won't.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:10 PM   #24
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Great point. Hey, took out Tampa. After last nights game I just feel anything is possible. How many time have we seen the stupid Ducks go on a second half surge and take top spot, why not the Flames?


See for this team I think they are better suited to play a team like Tampa over the Ducks. I was more impressed by that win.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:10 PM   #25
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Yeebus.

They've won 5 in a row and the PP is still a trainwreck. Let's not get too silly here.
Which is why I initially said " I know it's a long shot"
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:11 PM   #26
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It's not about just winning games. It's about the top two teams above us losing them.

Which means we HAVE to beat them when we play them. We have to cost them points. That's how you get first place.
Have beaten LA and the Ducks twice. So who knows?
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:12 PM   #27
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... Let's see them solidify themselves in a playoff spot, and hopefully create some space between that 9th spot team(s) in the standings.

If they keep doing that, then it could become the next topic, but for now, i'm not looking up at the standings as much as i am looking down.
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Better odds they miss the playoffs than win the division. I would be happy with a wildcard at this point as Vegas has two games at hand as well as a 10 point lead. Even if they win 3/4 against them (not likely an easy task) they have only gained 4 points and if they split there's likely zero chance they catch them unless they go on a lengthily losing skid. There are eight teams within 6 points of each other (including the Flames) so the standings are going to change on a weekly basis as by next week the Flames could easily be 12th in the conference.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:30 PM   #29
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I like that the Flames last 4 were wins over LA, ANA, MIN and TBL
And no, they aren't winning the division.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:34 PM   #30
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I like that the Flames last 4 were wins over LA, ANA, MIN and TBL
And no, they aren't winning the division.
Before this win streak you were probably in the "No they won't make the playoffs" camp too.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:35 PM   #31
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Lets just leave it at this:

We still have all our games to play against Vegas, whom we're theoretically chasing.

So its not impossible, but just hysterically unlikely.

So it could happen, but the improbability is significant.
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The real question here, is will Vegas continue to be what they have, or will they regress a bit?

I think Calgary has played themselves into a point where they can now duke it out with LA, Anaheim, and San Jose. Now it's a matter of Vegas keeping ahead of that pack. I suppose it could happen.

I still think Anaheim will pull off their usual 2nd half surge yet too.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:39 PM   #33
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we are almost as close to 1st in Pacific as the Oilers are in a playoff spot.
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Before this win streak you were probably in the "No they won't make the playoffs" camp too.
No. I always have thought they would make the playoffs. They have been playing really good hockey for some time now, and it eventually had to start paying off in results.
Problem is, when you play 40ish games with meh results, you have played yourself out of the division hunt, most likely. Even in the Pacific division. Flames have 39 games left. If they go 7-3 every 10, they end with 106 points. That might be enough to win the division. I see them more as a 100 point max team, which won't be enough.
Will be very happy to be wrong
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No. I always have thought they would make the playoffs. They have been playing really good hockey for some time now, and it eventually had to start paying off in results.
Problem is, when you play 40ish games with meh results, you have played yourself out of the division hunt, most likely. Even in the Pacific division. Flames have 39 games left. If they go 7-3 every 10, they end with 106 points. That might be enough to win the division. I see them more as a 100 point max team, which won't be enough.
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Fair enough.
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LA is for real this year again. Got rid of Sutter and have a healthy Quick. You don't fall very far with that line up. Last year was an anomaly for them.

Vegas - i have no answers.
Vegas has no 4th line players. Everyone is either 2nd/3rd/fringe 1st, the defense is full of rock solid guys, they're fast, well coached, and they have good goaltending.

That how you build a winner. The only thing they lack are stars.
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LA is for real this year again. Got rid of Sutter and have a healthy Quick. You don't fall very far with that line up. Last year was an anomaly for them.
If by "for real" you mean that they are a playoff team, then I will agree with you. But the Kings are no longer the same team that won two Stanley Cups, and it shows. While they were winning games in the first third of the season I don't think they ever looked as spectacular as their record, and as expected they look like they are starting to slip back to the pack. 4-4-2 in their past ten with three regulation wins in that span.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:43 PM   #38
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4 Games left with Vegas.

4-0 or 3-1 would make a big difference. Go 2-2 and that would cut our chances by a lot.
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If by "for real" you mean that they are a playoff team, then I will agree with you. But the Kings are no longer the same team that won two Stanley Cups, and it shows. While they were winning games in the first third of the season I don't think they ever looked as spectacular as their record, and as expected they look like they are starting to slip back to the pack. 4-4-2 in their past ten with three regulation wins in that span.
Yes i meant playoff team with just as good a chance of winning as any other team that makes it to the dance. These days - as we all know - getting in is all that matters. Where you place in the top 8 - really means nothing IMO with the exception of perhaps trying to avoid a particular matchup in Round 1 (again - we all know here who that means the Flames must avoid) - and that sort of matching exercise is not necessarily resolved by simply finishing as high as possible in the standings.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:54 PM   #40
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A lot of games left and this team has proven to be incredibly streaky, let's see if they can take their current play and make it into their norm. I do think this team is better than last season, and maybe a lot better. The additions of Jankowski, Hathaway, Kulak, Smith, Hamonic and Rittich (to a lesser extent) makes me believe this level of play is much more sustainable than last season. I would be satisfied with a top 3 finish and anything more is icing on the cake.

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