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Old 08-20-2019, 04:21 PM   #61
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Just don't wear shorts to work.
Dress code or no dress code, don't do it.

Are you playing a sport? Are you sitting on a patio, or enjoying a nice day out in the sun? If you answered no, don't wear shorts.
Offices are always cold anyway; you'll immediate wish you just wore pants.
Ignore this. We recently moved offices where a bunch of different offices moved into one here in Quarry Park. We standardized the dress code and the biggest thing I miss is not being able to wear shorts during the summer. Back in the old office, unless I'm meeting an external client or have a big formal meeting, basically from June - Sept, I wear pants maybe 5 times max during that 4 to 5 month period, in or out of work. It was glorious.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:21 PM   #62
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Stretch chino shorts are awesome. I suggest a golf brand like Callaway, they are designed to look good and to stretch while playing golf. Tight canvas style shorts are super uncomfortable.

I pair them with a golf shirt on course, but have also done short sleeve button up collared shirts (untucked) with a pair of Lacoste "Marice" style shoe. Not too often though, I feel like a frat boy. Kind of like this



To be honest though, I'm patiently waiting for cargo shorts to come back. I love all the pockets hahahaha
Just to be clear, you have to be handsome AF to pull off this kind of look.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:23 PM   #63
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I would say that if you're looking at the Banana Republic price point, check out J Crew instead. I find their materials and fit to be far superior. In terms of fit and quality, their 484 chinos might be the best value out there.
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Yeah J crew is SUPER reasonable and has great stuff. I outfitted myself for a wedding for around $100.
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Old 08-20-2019, 04:34 PM   #65
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If that guy did up two more buttons, that'd pretty much be my go to "hot summer day" uniform.

I don't get the "don't wear shorts, but if you have to" line at all. Like all clothes, shorts work for some people and don't for others. But they're a hell of a lot cooler than jeans, and practicality counts for something. Shoes I wear with shorts, from most common to least common:
So basically, you're looking at deck shoes and low top casual leather sneakers, in various non-loud colours - white and grey are generally the best bets, followed by blue.
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Someday I will buy Common Projects. Maybe next summer.
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Just to be clear, you have to be handsome AF to pull off this kind of look.
And pretty fit. It's like those chubby dudes who wear the muscle v neck shirts that look like they're about two sizes too small lol. Not a good look.
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Someday I will buy Common Projects. Maybe next summer.
You can have two pairs of mine, if you feel like refurbishing the hell out of them and are a size 45.

I've always said that if you have a pair of raw denim, a pair of CP achilles, a few decent fitting shirts and a good piece of outerwear, you've pretty much got everything you need in your wardrobe (especially for Vancouver where you are). But frankly, unless you really, really love the toe shape of the Achilles, the Wings + Horns offerings are just better made shoes, and it's a Canadian company (though the shoes themselves are made in Italy). I haven't had enough time with the Garment Project Achilles-ish models to be able to speak to whether you lose anything going that alternative. They're a bit thinner, but they look as good, so we'll see, as far as the longevity goes.
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Disagree with everything above except for the Lululemon bit. Their office wear is casual and can look pretty good on a certain person. Everything else, just pay some money, you are an adult.
Can I ask what's the stuff that is way off? I'm a little confused how essentially everything is essentially wrong. It's not like I'm telling him to go with a cargo shorts, Hawaiian shirt, tie and chukka boots or something.

The stuff I'm suggesting is reasonably on par with a street casual/or a slight mix of casual and formal. I believed OP was trying to move from overly casual to something closer to business attire without being all out business formal. I also don't think I suggested anything insanely different than what most others have mentioned already.

I also suggested a range of of stuff from cheap to higher end. Banana Republic/J Crew is essentially baseline, but there's stuff from Simons/H&M that can help round out gaps in the wardrobe/throw a little occasional variety for reasonably little extra money. I didn't go full on cheap or anything like suggest he go to value village.
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Seems like a solid combo to me so far. A polo and belt would definitely round out that ensemble IMO. But others might disagree.
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You can have two pairs of mine, if you feel like refurbishing the hell out of them and are a size 45.

I've always said that if you have a pair of raw denim, a pair of CP achilles, a few decent fitting shirts and a good piece of outerwear, you've pretty much got everything you need in your wardrobe (especially for Vancouver where you are). But frankly, unless you really, really love the toe shape of the Achilles, the Wings + Horns offerings are just better made shoes, and it's a Canadian company (though the shoes themselves are made in Italy). I haven't had enough time with the Garment Project Achilles-ish models to be able to speak to whether you lose anything going that alternative. They're a bit thinner, but they look as good, so we'll see, as far as the longevity goes.
It's just if I buy another pair of sneakers, my partner will murder me.

I've been wearing the heck out of a pair of Nike Internationalists all summer and will continue to do so into the fall.
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Old 08-20-2019, 05:04 PM   #73
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No sneakerheads on CP?

Not wearing socks with sneakers is just... gross.
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Just to be clear, you have to be handsome AF to pull off this kind of look.
Yeah no... that’s dumb.

Your physical appearance doesn’t matter. Just buy clothes that fit.
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A gentleman doesn't wear shorts ever unless for a specific activity, Tennis, Association Football or Rugby Union, if you have fallen to these depths don't worry about the shoes
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@OP: I guess it hasn't been mentioned yet, but what about a lady's touch? Are there any lady friends with good fashion sense (doesn't have to be a significant other) who could help out in rounding out your wardrobe?

Until I met my now wife, I was a fashion idiot too. All that I know now is essentially trying different things and remembering whether my wife and sometimes her friends going:

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Bruh these guys are all out to lunch. Get yourself a nice pair of Olukai and you’re set. The slick ones made out of leather those are class.
Quit giving away all of my super-secret styling techniques!!
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A gentleman doesn't wear shorts ever unless for a specific activity, Tennis, Association Football or Rugby Union, if you have fallen to these depths don't worry about the shoes
Aeneas our European traveller says Europeans view shorts as the province of children and idiots.

I wonder how this works during their 40 C summer.
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@OP: I guess it hasn't been mentioned yet, but what about a lady's touch? Are there any lady friends with good fashion sense (doesn't have to be a significant other) who could help out in rounding out your wardrobe?

Until I met my now wife, I was a fashion idiot too. All that I know now is essentially trying different things and remembering whether my wife and sometimes her friends going:

Naw, I’m essentially a hermit. I have a couple real-world friends, and the rest of my interactions are pretty much family, here (CP) or work-related. Or with my cat. Wow it’s actually not as bad to live it as it sounds like it is when I type it out...

Having said that, I’ve progressed through some different stages along the way. Don’t care about participating -> don’t want to participate -> want to participate -> participate incorrectly -> how the #### do I participate correctly? (that’s the stage I’m at now) -> participate correctly

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