Star Trek General Discussion

[Monahammer]

WTAF how can any of you hate the SNW theme?!?! It's not pretentious and ugly like Picard, non-sense and sporadic like Disco, and to the general theme unlike Enterprise.

It has the same notes as the TOS series (like a half key off) but a much more militant and less 70s baseline, but still the hopeful horns of exploration... the scenes of the enterprise are extremely voyager reminsicent. Then there's the final hit of actual ST theme at the very last second that's like a knife of hopeful nostalgia right to the brain.

Anyways, I think you're absolutely wrong for not liking this theme.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

My biggest complaint is the theme song.

TOS, TNG, DS9 and Voyager all have title sequences that establish exactly what kind of show you’re about to watch for the next hour.

This one does nothing for me, but at least the accompanying images are of the Enterprise flying through space.

The cast is good. Chapel, the Doctor and Pike are my standouts.

The guy who’s playing Spock is alright - I’ve never gotten the sense that any treatment of Spock since the 2009 movie actually understands the character, or Vulcans in general, and this one is no different.

Spock, Tuvok, Savik, even Sarek, have a bemused quality to them.

Like, they get the joke, they just don’t think it’s funny. It’s not that they don’t understand the concept of humour.

As I said, I don’t hate it. In most of the ways that matter, it gets things right.

I'm spitting mad about this comment lol go watch the theme song of original series and then watch the title of SNW again. I think you're going to come around on it. It's magnificent.

Re: Spock; I think you are bang on about the cinematic portrayal being totally off, but I think this SNW actually fits. You have to keep in mind we are seeing an extremely young spock by our standards, 10 ish years prior to Original Series spock. I think they've done a good job establishing this as a halfway point spock between the spock cultural icon and the strange spock from menagarie (also sort of explained in a Short Trek.)
Anyways, I think Peck is doing a good job, and we are already seeing signs of him morphing towards the Nemoy version. Give him a bit more runway!

[Inglewood Jack]

the theme music rocks. I never skip it cause it gets me hyped for Enterprise action. I did find the weirdly unrealistic renderings of the ship during the intro sequence jarring at first, but now I just accept it as intentionally stylized that way. it fits with the wild, dreamlike celestial settings that the ship is flying through.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Inglewood Jack

the theme music rocks. I never skip it cause it gets me hyped for Enterprise action. I did find the weirdly unrealistic renderings of the ship during the intro sequence jarring at first, but now I just accept it as intentionally stylized that way. it fits with the wild, dreamlike celestial settings that the ship is flying through.

It's voyager visuals with a less obtuse theme song imo. I have a soft spot for voyager, but that theme was full of itself. Self-laudatory.

[FlameOn]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

After finishing the entire season, it's safe to say that not only is SNW the best Trek series since Deep Space 9, it's in the running for best series ever. Objectively I'd say it is the best Trek series, simply because it's combining the best production values of any ST show with strong writing on par with TNG/DS9. My only complaint is that I wish they'd stop constraining themselves with the original series aesthetic. The original Enterprise design shouldn't be touched obviously, and the uniforms are a nice subtle upgrade on the t-shirts from TOS, but it's jarring to see pan shots of the bridge and all of the bulbous red and blue light bulbs on Uhura's station. Just retcon the smaller stuff like that so it doesn't look out of place for a series set centuries in the future

At least they kept the transparent jube jube control panel buttons.
I liked they kept some homages rather than dumped everything. Kinda gives it the whole, thru could transition to that styling with a refit type of message

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

WTAF how can any of you hate the SNW theme?!?! It's not pretentious and ugly like Picard, non-sense and sporadic like Disco, and to the general theme unlike Enterprise.

It has the same notes as the TOS series (like a half key off) but a much more militant and less 70s baseline, but still the hopeful horns of exploration... the scenes of the enterprise are extremely voyager reminsicent. Then there's the final hit of actual ST theme at the very last second that's like a knife of hopeful nostalgia right to the brain.

Anyways, I think you're absolutely wrong for not liking this theme.

The Star Trek themes of TNG, DS9 and Voyager tell you exactly what sort of show you’re about to watch.

This one is… fine. I guess. It is light years better than the other nuTrek sequences. I never liked Enterprise because they screwed up the intro.

At the end of the day, We get the Enterprise flying through space to orchestral music. It isn’t iconic the way the other ones are, but it’ll do.

Btw this storybook episode is the Star Trekkenist thing I’ve seen since the Vulcans played Sisko and co at a game of baseball.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Barnes

Music is important. It's the queue to find the Skip Intro button.

Whoever did the intro button on TNG on Netflix should be buried alive in a pit of angry venomous snakes.

They made it so it only skips the first 1 min 28s of the 1 min 30s intro so every ####ing time I hit skip I’m hit with a “dun, dun dun dun”. I swear to god they boosted the volume too because it always sounds like 200% louder than the regular show volume. It’s the absolute worst.

[craigwd]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The Star Trek themes of TNG, DS9 and Voyager tell you exactly what sort of show you’re about to watch.

This one is… fine. I guess. It is light years better than the other nuTrek sequences. I never liked Enterprise because they screwed up the intro.

At the end of the day, We get the Enterprise flying through space to orchestral music. It isn’t iconic the way the other ones are, but it’ll do.

Btw this storybook episode is the Star Trekkenist thing I’ve seen since the Vulcans played Sisko and co at a game of baseball.

Judging a show based on its theme music is a weird take.

Seinfeld should never have lasted more than a few eps then as that music is gawd awful

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Whoever did the intro button on TNG on Netflix should be buried alive in a pit of angry venomous snakes.

They made it so it only skips the first 1 min 28s of the 1 min 30s intro so every ####ing time I hit skip I’m hit with a “dun, dun dun dun”. I swear to god they boosted the volume too because it always sounds like 200% louder than the regular show volume. It’s the absolute worst.

Probably a Star Wars fan.

[sureLoss]

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[Locke]

Awesome!!

[Traditional_Ale]

When I first heard about the crossover for some reason I was thinking it was going to be like Who Framed Roger Rabbit. While having the voice actors in live action in their roles makes a lot more sense, my sense of weirdness kind of feels a bit let down.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

When I first heard about the crossover for some reason I was thinking it was going to be like Who Framed Roger Rabbit. While having the voice actors in live action in their roles makes a lot more sense, my sense of weirdness kind of feels a bit let down.

An episode where the crew gets turned into cartoons would be outstanding.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

An episode where the crew gets turned into cartoons would be outstanding.

That would be very interesting if they could adapt a story like Flatland into an episode.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

An episode where the crew gets turned into cartoons would be outstanding.

I like both ideas actually. A 'Roger Rabbit' version or a cartoon version in the vein of when the TNG command crew got turned into children.

Just lean into it. There are no limits!

[Shazam]

Lower Decks is back.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Lower Decks is back.

And it is awesome.

[direwolf]

That was great. Loved all the First Contact call-backs.

[pseudoreality]

I do love lower decks, but they could have pretended to have a plot for S3E1. The whole episode was just easter eggs for other trek. It felt like you were just walking around a Star Trek convention for 30 minutes.

[CaptainCrunch]

I didn't think it was a bad episode. I thought maybe it was an overly safe episode, where really nothing happened. But they flooded us with easter eggs like eating at Sisko's, bringing in the Phoenix. And then having Bateman and Tuvok in the background.

And then it went back to the conflict between Beckett and Mariner, and after last year they got an understanding, really putting them into conflict again.

Also they reverted Boimler back to just being a neurotic meme. With him ignoring the hot girls, smelling seats etc.

I'm still hoping for the Vulcan lower decks character to be assigned to Star Fleet just because I think a extra dimension of an uptight vulcan in the land of chaos would be interesting.

I almost want an episode with Garrett (I think that was his name)