Medicare for all who want it
15 seat supreme court with 5 chosen unanimously by the other justices
Douglass Plan
National Service Program
Abolishing the Electoral College
Carbon Tax
Pulling out of Afghanistan
Universal Background Checks and Assault Rifle Ban
Comprehensive Immigration Reform and Pathway to citizenship
You'd have to be studying Pete's website or lurking his twitter pretty hard to get all of that out of him. I'm pretty sure the only people who can rattle that stuff off are his supporters. Not to mention, some of those are just run of the mill Democratic party policies that don't distinguish him from any of the other candidates.
Anyway, here's the WaPo fact check from the debate.
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You'd have to be studying Pete's website or lurking his twitter pretty hard to get all of that out of him. I'm pretty sure the only people who can rattle that stuff off are his supporters. Not to mention, some of those are just run of the mill Democratic party policies that don't distinguish him from any of the other candidates.
Anyway, here's the WaPo fact check from the debate.
I'm fairly politically engaged, so I could tell you a fair amount of what each of the frontrunners is pitching. It doesn't take a close study of their websites. Not even sure I've visited any websites - only listening to debates, social media, political podcasts, etc.
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Irrelevant if Canadians on CP think he is too old or bad at debates. Biden will win a the usual dem states and likely enough swing states. If it was popular vote I might go with someone else but it's not.
Yang or someone "current" can be VP
The biggest problem with Biden as the candidate is that he doesn't excite the base or those on the fence to vote. This is particularly important for the Democrats who are traditionally more fickle than Republicans when it comes to voting. You could argue that Trump himself is engaging the base to get out and vote as witnessed in the midterms. However, Clinton was in a similar situation to Biden: she wasn't an exciting candidate for the base, she didn't move the needle with independents and she was considered the 'safest' candidate.
Bernie may not win the nomination but he has definitely captured the soul of the Democratic party and moved them further to the left and away from their more recent position of being corporate centrists. Whether that's good or bad remains to be seen but now most of the Dem candidates have policies that would have been considered somewhat radical just 4 years ago. Biden has not really moved in the last 4 years. In addition to his poor debate performances, it makes him seem even older and out of touch.
I suspect that if Biden does win the nomination it will help Trump despite what the polling currently shows. Trump is terrible at debates but he will make Biden look even worse. It will engage the right and deflate the left.
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I'm honestly a little surprised that he didn't hang in it until Texas, which is still early in the calendar and where he's consistently polling above the 15% threshold necessary for gaining delegates. No other candidates outside of the frontrunners have that sort of path in the big picture.
It probably benefits Biden more than anyone else to lose another conservative-lane rival, but if it's enough to put Warren or Sanders over the 15% threshold in Texas then it benefits them too. Hopefully we get some more polls in Texas in the next couple weeks, as it's been over a month since the last high-quality poll.
I'm just surprised he dropped before Gabbard, Bennett, Williamson, Castro, Bullock, Delaney, Sestak and Messam. You could even add Booker and Klobuchar to that list, who he consistently polls ahead of, but at least they're close and are major figures (although no one but the media seems to like Klobuchar at all).
The hope has to be that the herd thins before the November debates. Maybe this will produce that outcome.
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Andrew Yang joins the group of Biden, Buttigieg, Sanders, Warren, Steyer and Klobuchar for the December debate by securing 4% of a 4th poll today. Gabbard could still qualify but already stated she wouldn't participate even if she gets the required 4% by Thursday. Harris already qualified but ended her campaign last week.
And it shows just how pathetic Democrats truly are that their lack of a spine to stand up to Republicans has forced the base farther left than they liked and now they are freaking out.
Maybe Obama should've forced through judges and Merrick Garland when he had the opportunity instead of playing a game only he followed the rules for?
Amazing how many Democratic operatives don’t understand the simple facts that: 1.) there is a big unmet need for a political movement that actually tries to help poor and working class people; and 2.) politics is a lot more appealing to people when it’s framed in moral terms rather than technical terms. Those two principles get you like 90% of the way to understanding Sanders’ appeal. But the Democratic professional class just doesn’t get it because they view politics as a puzzle game for affluent, well-educated technocrats.
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And it shows just how pathetic Democrats truly are that their lack of a spine to stand up to Republicans has forced the base farther left than they liked and now they are freaking out.
Maybe Obama should've forced through judges and Merrick Garland when he had the opportunity instead of playing a game only he followed the rules for?
Amazing how many Democratic operatives don’t understand the simple facts that: 1.) there is a big unmet need for a political movement that actually tries to help poor and working class people; and 2.) politics is a lot more appealing to people when it’s framed in moral terms rather than technical terms. Those two principles get you like 90% of the way to understanding Sanders’ appeal. But the Democratic professional class just doesn’t get it because they view politics as a puzzle game for affluent, well-educated technocrats.
The Democratic party and media took a lot of heat on how they treated Bernie in 2016, so this is just a natural swing the other way where they give him lots of leeway so they don't look like they are doing it again. I don't see it as much more than that. Your two points are tertiary. Warren is running on a almost identical platform as Bernie and she has received less support (showing that its often about personality not the meta issues) and has faced much more scrutiny for her policies. (showing that people are willing to critique the policies when they aren't afraid of how it makes them look due to Bernie's history)
I will once again add that Bernie Sanders has still never actually bothered to join the Democratic party, so I'm really not sure why people think the party needs to play nice with him. But that's for another day I guess...
The Democratic party and media took a lot of heat on how they treated Bernie in 2016, so this is just a natural swing the other way where they give him lots of leeway so they don't look like they are doing it again. I don't see it as much more than that. Your two points are tertiary. Warren is running on a almost identical platform as Bernie and she has received less support (showing that its often about personality not the meta issues) and has faced much more scrutiny for her policies. (showing that people are willing to critique the policies when they aren't afraid of how it makes them look due to Bernie's history)
I will once again add that Bernie Sanders has still never actually bothered to join the Democratic party, so I'm really not sure why people think the party needs to play nice with him. But that's for another day I guess...
The DNC's corporate media backers have had their knives out for Bernie for months, exacerbated even further by Bernie publicly supporting CNN's unionized workers during their dispute with the company.
This is what's always made me laugh about the whole "left-wing bias in MSM" nonsense. You can call it a liberal bias, but it certainly isn't left-wing. Honestly, if Bernie gets the nom, I expect to see much more flattering coverage of Trump from CNN, NY Times, etc., leading up to the general election.
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This really demonstrates just how terrible most of these candidates are. Money is no object and everything is an entitlement. Who will pay for it all? They don't care and neither should you apparently...
This really demonstrates just how terrible most of these candidates are. Money is no object and everything is an entitlement. Who will pay for it all? They don't care and neither should you apparently...
Haven't they all been clear that billionaires will pay for it all? And by cutting military spending.
Haven't they all been clear that billionaires will pay for it all? And by cutting military spending.
Bernie has also simply stated that taxes for the middle class will be going up but moderately compared to what uber wealthy individuals and corporations will be paying.
