06-09-2008, 08:17 PM
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I would love one, despite never having seen one in person, but Rogers is not getting a lick of my money for this unless they come out with reasonable data plans. I have no *need* for an iPhone or anything like a Blackberry, so I can wait and be patient.
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06-09-2008, 09:13 PM
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#82
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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The GPS is AGPS, but I can't find out what kind of AGPS.. some AGPS uses the assist from the carrier just to get the first locate faster, while others need to talk to the carrier for every locate. The first will work without any carrier connection at all.
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06-09-2008, 09:23 PM
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#83
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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The AGPS would likely be a time assistance. You could conceivably navigate with three satellites given you have a decent estimate of time from the cellular network.
For all those worried about data, FYI, I have a 1GB per month plan that costs $65 a month I think, I barely go NEAR that amount of data, but I don't find a need for data all the time.
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06-09-2008, 09:32 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Yeah hopefully that's all that it is. It was handy to have my N95 with the maps preloaded in the mountains driving around when I didn't have any cell signal actually.
I hope they come up with something cheaper than that, if Bell can offer unlimited for $30, Rogers should be able to do at least 1GB for $30, I agree 1GB without tethering would probably be well over enough for the vast majority.
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06-09-2008, 11:47 PM
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#85
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Victoria, BC
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nvm
Last edited by HotHotHeat; 06-10-2008 at 12:02 AM.
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06-10-2008, 04:01 AM
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#86
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Jose, CA
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its going to have GPS too. YAY! So even if you dont have nav in your car, just take your IPhone! 
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06-10-2008, 07:49 AM
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#87
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Originally Posted by OilersBaby
its going to have GPS too. YAY! So even if you dont have nav in your car, just take your IPhone! |
The skeptic in me wonders who much extra Rogers will charge you to use that feature.
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06-10-2008, 08:41 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredr123
The skeptic in me wonders who much extra Rogers will charge you to use that feature.
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Yeah. I hate being compelled to pay for features that are native to the phone.
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06-10-2008, 09:09 AM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fredr123
The skeptic in me wonders who much extra Rogers will charge you to use that feature.
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I'm not really sure Rogers can make you pay for that. Could be wrong, but I assume it'll be included.
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06-10-2008, 09:15 AM
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#90
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russic
I'm not really sure Rogers can make you pay for that. Could be wrong, but I assume it'll be included.
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If they lock down that feature of the phone then yes, they may be able to charge you to use it.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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06-10-2008, 09:45 AM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
If they lock down that feature of the phone then yes, they may be able to charge you to use it.
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That would drive me up the wall. Honestly the fact that it has gps is almost the tipping point for me to get one of these.
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06-10-2008, 09:52 AM
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#92
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Originally Posted by Russic
That would drive me up the wall. Honestly the fact that it has gps is almost the tipping point for me to get one of these.
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Not to derail the thread but it's rumored that the proposed changes to Canada's copyright act would make it an offence to muck around with and unlock features that are locked down on cell phones.
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06-10-2008, 09:55 AM
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3 Wolves Short of 2 Millionth Post
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i can't see apple letting rogers lock down there phones
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06-10-2008, 10:07 AM
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#94
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Originally Posted by wpgflamesfan
i can't see apple letting rogers lock down there phones
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Most (all?) other equipment providers allow it. I would prefer if Apple would buck the trend and prevent such a thing from happening.
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06-10-2008, 10:07 AM
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GOAT!
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Apple controls all aspects of their phones. There is no such thing as a "supplier" altering any aspect of an Apple product.
AT&T found this out the hard way. They had to change the entire way they do business in order to sell the iPhone - and Rogers will do have to do the same.
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06-10-2008, 11:15 AM
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Director of the HFBI
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Calgary
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I don't think it really matters. There is a huge community of people out there that are unlocking and enhancing the iPhone for their use.
No matter what Rogers, AT&T "lock" you into, there will be a way around it.
Plus on the upside, there wont an easy way to tell if the phone has been unlocked or not, at least from a cosmetic point of view.
I guess it comes down to if Rogers is going to put in their own software to track phones that do get unlocked. Kind of like a phone home "feature".
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06-10-2008, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by arsenal
I don't think it really matters. There is a huge community of people out there that are unlocking and enhancing the iPhone for their use.
No matter what Rogers, AT&T "lock" you into, there will be a way around it.
Plus on the upside, there wont an easy way to tell if the phone has been unlocked or not, at least from a cosmetic point of view.
I guess it comes down to if Rogers is going to put in their own software to track phones that do get unlocked. Kind of like a phone home "feature".
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This goes back to a different thread topic, but I'd really like to not be a criminal simply for using the features of a device that I paid for. Locking features sucks.
And in other news, the unlimited data plans from AT&T for the 3G iPhones will cost more: http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pi...rticleid=25791 Also, it appears that Apple won't be getting a cut of the new 3G sales, at least not the same way it was sharing revenue from monthly contracts with the original iPhones.
So AT&T will be subsidizing the cost of the iPhone in order to offer it for the price promised by Jobs and plans to make up the difference based on higher data plan charges:
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In the near term, AT&T anticipates that the new agreement will likely result in some pressure on margins and earnings, reflecting the costs of subsidized device pricing, which, in turn, is expected to drive increased subscriber volumes.
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06-10-2008, 11:30 AM
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#98
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FanIn80
Apple controls all aspects of their phones. There is no such thing as a "supplier" altering any aspect of an Apple product.
AT&T found this out the hard way. They had to change the entire way they do business in order to sell the iPhone - and Rogers will do have to do the same.
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Excellent to hear. I will never complain about somebody forcing Rogers to do their business differently.
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06-10-2008, 11:50 AM
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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Originally Posted by Russic
Excellent to hear. I will never complain about somebody forcing Rogers to do their business differently.
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Yeah, except it's Apple..
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06-10-2008, 11:56 AM
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#100
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russic
Excellent to hear. I will never complain about somebody forcing Rogers to do their business differently.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kermitology
Yeah, except it's Apple..
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The "Unstoppable force hitting the immovable object"?
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—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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