Former Flames player performance thread - 2022/23 season

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Wasn't Huberdeau called the greatest playmaker the franchise has ever seen by this coach?

Yes

[dino7c]

I mean he did set the NHL record for assists at his position the previous year

[FlamesAddiction]

Huberdeau's issue obviously isn't skill. It's that he doesn't apply himself on a consistent basis. If he played with the same drive as Tkachuk, he would likely have 100 points. I just don't know how you light a fire under him. You shouldn't have to.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He is literally dragging that team into the post season by himself.

Incredible player.

Not sure why he'd have to do that. Didn't he go there because of the "culture of winning"?

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Huberdeau's issue obviously isn't skill. It's that he doesn't apply himself on a consistent basis. If he played with the same drive as Tkachuk, he would likely have 100 points. I just don't know how you light a fire under him. You shouldn't have to.

Makes sense. His fire is out.

[Johnny Makarov]

Time to rename this thread the "Florida Panthers CP Fan Club"... lol!
I want to see Chucky Cheese in the playoffs! Prove us wrong Matthew!

[Classic_Sniper]

Wow, what a season for Matthew Tkachuk. Think I read somewhere that he’s the first American born player in nearly 30 years to record back to back 100 point seasons.

Just goes to show how versatile of a player he is. He’s as good of a goal scorer as he is a playmaker, he can check for his chances, he can score on the rush, in front of the net, below the hashmarks, on the PP and etc.

Florida might not make the playoffs, but he definitely won’t be the reason as he punched well above his weight this season.

[Flamesfan05]

Lot of people including me thought Tkachuk potential is limited because he can’t skate


Well, he is proving other than skating, he is indeed a generational player…

Best Flames pick in the last 30 yrs

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Maybe not exactly be probably close

Tkachuk on the Flames....no Huberdeau or Kadri, no Weegar. Monahan for 20 games?

Tkachuk wouldn't have the big numbers again here in that scenario...that is why he wanted the trade and sign last summer. When Gaudreau left the Offence was looking pretty thin.

It is super hard to imagine Tkachuk putting up 100 points with Lindholm and Toffoli

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Flamesfan05

Lot of people including me thought Tkachuk potential is limited because he can’t skate


Well, he is proving other than skating, he is indeed a generational player…

Best Flames pick in the last 30 yrs

A generational player is the best player of his generation, you know - comes along once in a generation. Let's try and keep it real here.

[boogerz]

It's crazy that the Flames drafted Tkachuk, Fox, and Dube in the same draft.

That's a generational draft right there.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by boogerz

It's crazy that the Flames drafted Tkachuk, Fox, and Dube in the same draft.

That's a generational draft right there.

I hate Fox and Tkachuk, they both spat on this franchise.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by boogerz

It's crazy that the Flames drafted Tkachuk, Fox, and Dube in the same draft.

That's a generational draft right there.

Yeah, the Flames haven't been able to keep all their talent, but their drafting has actually done a pretty good job. If Monahan hadn't broken down and the team still had Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and Fox they would be top-tier contender.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

A generational player is the best player of his generation, you know - comes along once in a generation. Let's try and keep it real here.

I said other than his skating

There is not another player that skates like that and still produces like that

He is not a generational but a unicorn for sure

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I hate Fox and Tkachuk, they both spat on this franchise.

Fox I can see but not Tkachuk. Players have rights and he used them. It's not like he did the Flames dirty.
It's better than the days when players were chattel.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

It is super hard to imagine Tkachuk putting up 100 points with Lindholm and Toffoli

I don’t know, he spent a good chunk of time with the fame Flames bust Sam whatever

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

Fox I can see but not Tkachuk. Players have rights and he used them. It's not like he did the Flames dirty.
It's better than the days when players were chattel.

He forced a trade to one of a very small number of teams directly after the team’s only other star left.

Fox used his rights just the same as Tkachuk, so I don’t see why they would be different. And if you don’t think what Tkachuk did was doing the Flames dirty, I don’t wanna know how dirty you get done.

That trade has turned out poorly, but if it looked this ugly from the beginning then I doubt as many people would be so rosey on Tkachuk.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

Yeah, the Flames haven't been able to keep all their talent, but their drafting has actually done a pretty good job. If Monahan hadn't broken down and the team still had Gaudreau, Tkachuk, and Fox they would be top-tier contender.

No idea if this team would be cap compliant, but hey, I thought I would look at a revised roster with this in mind. For argument's sake, I treated Lindholm and Hanifin for Hamilton and Ferland straight up, but perhaps a 2nd or 3rd round pick thrown in.

Gaudreau-Lindholm-Tkachuk (best line in hockey)
Dube-Monahan(healthy)-Toffoli
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman
Lewis-Ruzicka-Duehr

Fox-Weegar
Hanifin-Andersson
Tanev-Zadorov

Markstrom
Vladar

That could easily be a cup winning team. JFC.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

Fox I can see but not Tkachuk. Players have rights and he used them. It's not like he did the Flames dirty.
It's better than the days when players were chattel.

Tkachuk asked for a trade after losing to the Flames biggest rivals in the playoffs. That is down right disrespect.

[Yamer]

It would take a lot to convince me otherwise that the seeds of Tkachuk's departure were planted at his bridge deal, and his mind was all but made up in the days following the Muzzin incident.