05-04-2018, 09:53 AM
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#2
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Incoming inflated numbers.
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05-04-2018, 09:54 AM
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#3
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Franchise Player
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Gaudreau
Monahan
Hamilton
Tkachuk
That would be my hierarchy. I think people underestimate the importance of a center, which is ironic on this board since the Flames haven't had one like Monahan in so long. Quietly goes out and scores 30 goals each year.
Of course the contract depends on the amount of years, especially with UFA years involved, but I expect him to sign between the Monahan-Hamilton contracts. 6M a year seems about right.
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05-04-2018, 09:56 AM
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#4
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Less than Gallagher but more than Dougie Hamilton. Also discussed here, though perhaps it's better to get away from the abhorrent punnery in the title of that thread.
https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=168059
Somewhere between Johnny and Monahan, 8 years.
Last edited by iloveicedhockey; 05-04-2018 at 09:58 AM.
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05-04-2018, 10:02 AM
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#5
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey
Less than Gallagher but more than Dougie Hamilton.
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What am I missing here? Gallagher makes 3.75M a year.
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05-04-2018, 10:02 AM
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#6
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Franchise Player
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Monahan had 80 goals and 159 points after 3 seasons in the NHL while playing center, a much harder position to play. He got $6,375,000 per on a 7 year deal. ($44,625,000 total)
Tkachuk will have to score 43 goals and 62 points this upcoming season to match that and he plays the wing.
Comparing winger to winger:
Gaudreau after 2 NHL seasons before his extension:
0.89 points per game
0.33 goals per game
Tkachuk after 2 NHL seasons so far:
0.67 points per game
0.26 goals per game
Gaudreau got a 6 year $40,500,000 contract ($6,750,000 AAV)
Tkachuk won't get more than either of those two did with their 2nd contracts IMO.
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05-04-2018, 10:02 AM
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#7
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Oling: I think he meant Gaudreau?
So between $5.75M and $6.75M
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05-04-2018, 10:04 AM
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#8
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
What am I missing here? Gallagher makes 3.75M a year.
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It is a dig at the OP who has a habit of littering the forum with nonsense.
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05-04-2018, 10:07 AM
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#9
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Kind of pointless to discuss now considering next season's play will be the deciding factor on the range of contract he gets. I expect or at least hope the new coaching staff keeps him on the first PP unit and moves him or off the Backlund line or at the very least gets Frolik off that line as that alone will likely boost his offensive output.
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05-04-2018, 10:08 AM
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#10
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Kind of pointless to discuss now considering next season's play will be the deciding factor on the range of contract he gets.
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Well, he is eligible to sign this summer.
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05-04-2018, 10:08 AM
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#11
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Franchise Player
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Probably 11.5 million
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05-04-2018, 10:09 AM
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#12
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Well, he is eligible to sign this summer.
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Yeah but why would Tkachuk want to? He's probably looking at his progress (what he could do if given more PP time) and betting on himself having a big season next year.
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05-04-2018, 10:09 AM
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Norm!
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I think it depends.
Draisaitl's contract has distorted things now, There's no question in my mind that MT is going to be seen as a more valuable player in negotiating his deal just because of his other numbers.
If he comes out and has a 30 goal 30 assist season.
The initial starting point for the Flames will be behind Mony, Johnny and Hamilton so lets say 6 million bucks, and then through a incredibly complex hockey based advanced inflation calculator.
I figure that he gets 8 years at 7 million dollars.
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05-04-2018, 10:10 AM
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#14
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Give a short term dal but give him a big raise if be convinces his brother not to sign with the team that drafts him and signs with the Flames.
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05-04-2018, 10:15 AM
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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I see nothing wrong with a lower money & term deal that keeps him RFA. Then you can lock him up as the new franchise cap hit for an 8 year deal. I believe you can build around a guy like Tkachuk.
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05-04-2018, 10:17 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah but why would Tkachuk want to?
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I think it would be tough for a lot of people to turn down a ~50M contract. A good year may see him make closer to 60M instead, which is a great reason to not to sign, but another concussion or other injury could mean risking it all.
Maybe less of a concern for Tkachuk given his family is already wealthy.
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05-04-2018, 10:22 AM
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#18
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Franchise Player
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I want to see a bridge deal that takes him to, just prior, his last season as a RFA.
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05-04-2018, 10:23 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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I can see why the Flames may want to lock him up in the case he blows up next season as well as gets some long term salary cap certainty but he's probably looking at what Draisaitl got by waiting another year as there's no way he gets that deal based on his 15/16 season.
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05-04-2018, 10:28 AM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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