07-25-2021, 11:25 AM
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#61
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by transplant99
The Flames liked him so much they tried to move up to get him but couldnt make the deal. He fell to them anyway.
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Hadn't heard that.
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07-25-2021, 11:48 AM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by transplant99
The Flames liked him so much they tried to move up to get him but couldnt make the deal. He fell to them anyway.
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Well, they got their guy then...Hoping that that Loob has as good an eye for talent that he had for the net when sniping 50 for Calgary.
Just have to wait and see in the next 2-5 years.
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07-25-2021, 11:52 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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Stromgren has a good one timer, and from what I’ve seen of him, he tracks the play very well. He knows how to get his stick in the way and disrupt the opposition.
He’s not an electric skater, but he’s smooth.
I think he can play - the Flames have been decent with 2nd round picks under Treliving - Andersson, OK, Dube, Kuznetzov, Parsons, Smith/McDonald - nobody likes the last two, but they were part of Brad’s first draft.
Stromgren looks closer to Dube than Smith, at least as far as being a viable pro hockey player.
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07-25-2021, 12:16 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
$5M for Yandle? Are you fricking serious?
How about $1M for Yandle?
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yep, Flames need to pass on Yandle.
They need to find a dman that can play 22 to 25 minutes a night
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07-25-2021, 12:28 PM
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#65
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Hadn't heard that.
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https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpo...3&postcount=68
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07-25-2021, 12:52 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Matthew Coronato, RW (No. 13): Pronman had him at #15 (-2) Wheeler #17 (-4)
William Stromgren, LW (No. 45): Pronman had him at #79 (-34) Wheeler #42 (+3)
Cole Huckins, C (No. 77): Pronman had him at #118 (-41) Wheeler #66 (+11)
Cameron Whynot, D (No. 89): Pronman had him at 50 (+39) Wheeler #86 (+3)
Pronman -38 and Wheeler +13
I guess that Pronman is weighting the C+ based on Coronato. Just looking on how off his ranking the Flames went with Stromgren and Huckins it makes the C+ overall ranking a participation award .
Wheeler's grade would be about a C+ based on his pre-draft ranking showing that the Flames got better players than he thought they would in 3 out of 4 of the guys under 100.
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07-25-2021, 04:19 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1419418235808649216
The Sporting news ranked every teams draft, here’s what they had to say about the Flames:
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Calgary Flames: B+
Best Selection: Cole Jordan (141st)
With Matthew Coronato, the Flames take one of the most competitive players in the class, with a nose for getting into the high-danger areas. Their next pick of William Stromgren also could turn into a solid NHLer although he is fairly raw. Picking up Cole Jordan down in the fifth round is one of the biggest draft-day steals as he is an intelligent defender and strong skater
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07-25-2021, 04:23 PM
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#68
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The Oilers were rated one of the worst, so this guy nailed it
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07-25-2021, 04:25 PM
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#69
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Canada 02
The Oilers were rated one of the worst, so this guy nailed it
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Yeah the Oilers blew it big time and they are awful. Here is the list of all grades from the Sporting News list:
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NHL Draft grades, by grade
Columbus Blue Jackets: A
Dallas Stars: A
Buffalo Sabres: A-
Carolina Hurricanes: A-
Nashville Predators: A-
Anaheim Ducks: B+
Calgary Flames: B+
Detroit Red Wings: B+
Los Angeles Kings: B+
Minnesota Wild: B+
Winnipeg Jets: B+
Boston Bruins: B
New Jersey Devils: B
New York Islanders: B
Florida Panthers: B-
Arizona Coyotes: C+
Colorado Avalanche: C+
San Jose Sharks: C+
St. Louis Blues: C+
Toronto Maple Leafs: C+
New York Rangers: C
Seattle Kraken: C
Vegas Golden Knights: C
Chicago Blackhawks: C-
Philadelphia Flyers: C-
Vancouver Canucks: C-
Washington Capitals: C-
Edmonton Oilers: D+
Pittsburgh Penguins: D
Tampa Bay Lightning: D
Ottawa Senators: D-
Montreal Canadiens: No grade
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07-25-2021, 04:43 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I think the B+ is fair for the Flames. We didn't go it with amazing draft capital, but made the best of it.
Personally, I like the picks made by Dallas, Anaheim, and Winnipeg the most. Winnipeg didn't have a lot to work with but seemed to get great value with what they had.
I have mixed feelings about Columbus and ranking them that high. Yeah, they had a lot of 1st round picks, but they paid a lot to get those. I would be excited if I was a fan of course.
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07-25-2021, 05:08 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Calgary
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Wheeler had Edmonton in the bottom as well. So naturally I agree with that.
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07-25-2021, 05:10 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
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I can't possibly rate the second have of the draft but I have to think that Stevie Yzerman and the Red Wings are absolutely kicking it back right now knowing they killed it
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07-25-2021, 05:33 PM
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#73
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon
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Fun Fact! Josh is one of our main scouts at FCHockey and this is a joint promotion we do in conjunction with Sporting News to provide them some NHL Draft content!
And I know Derek Neumeier (our head crossover scout who did an amazing job on the broadcast with SN960 this weekend) suggested pre-draft that we should've had Coronato higher on our list going in, so there's that too.
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07-25-2021, 10:21 PM
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#74
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Powerplay Quarterback
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"Hours after being drafted by NYI, Aatu Raty has a hat trick at the world junior showcase". Well then...
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07-25-2021, 10:56 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tbull8
"Hours after being drafted by NYI, Aatu Raty has a hat trick at the world junior showcase". Well then...
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Will be interesting too see if Raty makes it to the show. I wonder who was the last big faller like him that turned into a top 6 guy
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07-26-2021, 10:08 PM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Apparently not only the Flames drafted bigger players this year. It was a league wide trend:
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It makes a certain amount of sense. Many prospects played very little and some didn't play at all. You have much less information than usual about how well they can play, but by golly, you do know exactly how big they are.
I'd wait to see the 2022 draft before calling it a trend.
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07-29-2021, 09:52 PM
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Franchise Player
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Not really sure what the world juniors showcase is but Raty is tearing it up.
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07-30-2021, 10:49 AM
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#79
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Bader has the Flames with the 9th best skaters and 11th best goaltending prospect list.
Overall rank 6th.
That's sure to cause a stir for those that think Calgary has nothing.
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6. Calgary Flames
Over the past two drafts, the Flames have added a lot of good pieces to the system (notably Coronato and Zary). They aren't reaching and are drafting good value. The Flames also picked up G prospects Vladar and Werner which helped re-shape a lackluster G pool.
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07-30-2021, 10:53 AM
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#80
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by Bingo
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Pfffffffft.
What does looking at players through an analytical lens do?
Pffffffft.
Calgary sucks, watch the games.
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