2024/2025 Trade Rumours and Speculation thread

[kukkudo]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I think there is zero chance NJ trades its 2024 pick.

Desperation might kick in. Fitz knows this is the last shot he’s got otherwise he’s done.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by kukkudo

Desperation might kick in. Fitz knows this is the last shot he’s got otherwise he’s done.

I doubt markstrom will be the best goalie available option to NJD. However I still think he’ll be a potential target.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I doubt markstrom will be the best goalie available option to NJD. However I still think he’ll be a potential target.

The only other guy available that is better than Markstrom is Ullmark. Does anyone think Ullmark will come cheaper than Markstrom?

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

The only other guy available that is better than Markstrom is Ullmark. Does anyone think Ullmark will come cheaper than Markstrom?

If the NJD 2024 1st rounder is being used to solve their goaltending issues. Ullmark is probably the best somewhat proven goalie available but still not the player I would target.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Sec214

If the NJD 2024 1st rounder is being used to solve their goaltending issues. Ullmark is probably the best somewhat proven goalie available but still not the player I would target.

You’re thinking Saros. But he isn’t as good.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You’re thinking Saros. But he isn’t as good.

Wrong.

I would be dangling that pick for only Yaroslav Aaskarov.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Wrong.

I would be dangling that pick for only Yaroslav Aaskarov.

So the Predators get to draft a goalie 11th overall, spend three years developing him, groom him to succeed Saros, and then trade him for… the 10th overall pick?

What's in it for them?

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by Sec214

If the NJD 2024 1st rounder is being used to solve their goaltending issues. Ullmark is probably the best somewhat proven goalie available but still not the player I would target.

This. I agree that Ullmark will cost more than Markstrom but if Dallas is willing to trade their 2024 1st round pick… that alone should be more than enough to get Ullmark. To me, if Calgary really wants that pick from New Jersey, it will take at least the Vancouver 2024 1st round pick as a sweetener… that would be a way to “outbid” Boston for that 10th overall pick. Something like:

To Calgary:
New Jersey’s 2024 1st round pick (10th overall)

To New Jersey:
Markstrom (50% retained)
Vancouver’s 2024 1st round pick (30th overall)
Calgary’s 2nd round pick (42nd overall)

I know that seems like a lot for a single pick… but teams hate trading first round picks at the draft… and they really hate trading top ten picks at the draft… and they really, really hate trading top ten picks for 34-year-old goalies. Going to take a lot to get that pick.

But it would be exciting to see that happen if it meant the flames got Iginla + Lindstrom/Buium/Yakemchuk/Helenius. It would also work out great if Calgary got the pick before they made their own 1st pick… Conroy could announce the first pick (9th overall) and Jarome could announce the second pick (10th overall).

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Wrong.

I would be dangling that pick for only Yaroslav Aaskarov.

Saros is also a free agent next year, if I'm not mistaken?

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Saros is also a free agent next year, if I'm not mistaken?

They would trade Aaskarov before they trade Saros.

[Robbob]

If Saros signs a 6 or 7 year extension, then maybe Askarov may be available.

[Tbull8]

Devils getting another young goalie to go with Daws and Schmid could blow up in their faces again though. At least with Markstrom, Saros, ullmark they’re getting a proven starter. How many more seasons are Hughes and co. going to be ok with gambling on an unproven goalie

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Devils getting another young goalie to go with Daws and Schmid could blow up in their faces again though. At least with Markstrom, Saros, ullmark they’re getting a proven starter. How many more seasons are Hughes and co. going to be ok with gambling on an unproven goalie

Huge difference between Aaskarov and the other mentioned goalies. It’s a gamble either way you look at it. One has a lot more runway than the rest.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

You’re thinking Saros. But he isn’t as good.

Everything I have heard indicates the Preds will keep Saros. They did have a conversation with the Devils before the trade deadline about him but the price was very high, significantly higher than Markstrom.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by stemit14

This. I agree that Ullmark will cost more than Markstrom but if Dallas is willing to trade their 2024 1st round pick… that alone should be more than enough to get Ullmark. To me, if Calgary really wants that pick from New Jersey, it will take at least the Vancouver 2024 1st round pick as a sweetener… that would be a way to “outbid” Boston for that 10th overall pick. Something like:

To Calgary:
New Jersey’s 2024 1st round pick (10th overall)

To New Jersey:
Markstrom (50% retained)
Vancouver’s 2024 1st round pick (30th overall)
Calgary’s 2nd round pick (42nd overall)

I know that seems like a lot for a single pick… but teams hate trading first round picks at the draft… and they really hate trading top ten picks at the draft… and they really, really hate trading top ten picks for 34-year-old goalies. Going to take a lot to get that pick.

But it would be exciting to see that happen if it meant the flames got Iginla + Lindstrom/Buium/Yakemchuk/Helenius. It would also work out great if Calgary got the pick before they made their own 1st pick… Conroy could announce the first pick (9th overall) and Jarome could announce the second pick (10th overall).

That would not be a good trade. Suspect in about 10 days Colorado will be in the market for a goalie. In 8 days the Kings will be in the market for a goalie and if Freddie Andersson continues to have uneven performances and the Canes do not make it past the 2nd round Carolina could be in the market for a goalie.

If there are 3-4 teams in the market for a goalie there will be way better trades than that one.

https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06...aft-picks/amp/

Using that pick value chart your trade values a 50% Markstrom at the value of a 2nd round pick. At that rate of return the Flames might as well keep Markstrom.

If you eat 2 million the Sens might even be willing to give up their first, Pinto and Korpisalo for Markstrom and a second. There are way more options for Conroy than the Devils.

[Saqe]

Probably can throw Stolarz in to the goalie market mix. He's solid but mostly a product of Florida's system. Teams are always ready to take a flyer on these types of guys in free agency. Veteran goalie, great numbers and he is a giant.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Probably can throw Stolarz in to the goalie market mix. He's solid but mostly a product of Florida's system. Teams are always ready to take a flyer on these types of guys in free agency. Veteran goalie, great numbers and he is a giant.

I think there are upwards of 5 teams that will be looking for a goalie this offseason. On the high end (which would be best for the Flames) the Avs and Hurricanes will be looking for a strong veteran that they think can win them a Stanley Cup. The Flames and the Bruins are their best options for trading partners. The Sens I think will be looking for a goalie, their current management group had nothing to do with signing Korpisalo. They probably have had their fill of mediocre veteran goalies as they have tried that route for 3 years. Suspect the Kings and the Devils may be more open to trying a Stolarz route. Either way I think there will be 3-5 teams that Conroy can use to bid up the price on Markstrom.

[transplant99]

Conroy can play teams against each other but only if Markstrom clears them as a place he is willing to go to.

Who knows what that list will look like.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

That would not be a good trade. Suspect in about 10 days Colorado will be in the market for a goalie. In 8 days the Kings will be in the market for a goalie and if Freddie Andersson continues to have uneven performances and the Canes do not make it past the 2nd round Carolina could be in the market for a goalie.

If there are 3-4 teams in the market for a goalie there will be way better trades than that one.

https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06...aft-picks/amp/

Using that pick value chart your trade values a 50% Markstrom at the value of a 2nd round pick. At that rate of return the Flames might as well keep Markstrom.

If you are 2 million the Sens might even be willing to give up their first, Pinto and Korpisalo for Markstrom and a second. There are way more options for Conroy than the Devils.

Thing is, stemit is right. The flames aren’t getting anything close to what you suggest.

MAF went for a second. Hall of fame cup winner.

Markstrom alone is not likely to get a first, let an alone a first plus a player. I know there were rumours. You shouldn’t believe them, or I don’t believe them I guess. The league isn’t into 60-70 game starters anymore. Find the last time a mid 30s goalie went for a package in a trade.

The flames might do Markstrom a solid and send him to a place trying to win. I’d guess a 2nd or 3rd in return. Maybe an early 20s throw in prospect.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

Thing is, stemit is right. The flames aren’t getting anything close to what you suggest.

MAF went for a second. Hall of fame cup winner.

Markstrom alone is not likely to get a first, let an alone a first plus a player. I know there were rumours. You shouldn’t believe them, or I don’t believe them I guess. The league isn’t into 60-70 game starters anymore. Find the last time a mid 30s goalie went for a package in a trade.

The flames might do Markstrom a solid and send him to a place trying to win. I’d guess a 2nd or 3rd in return. Maybe an early 20s throw in prospect.

Darcy Kuemper got the equivalent of a former late first, a first round pick and a third round pick. I suspect the market for Markstrom is something similar. If they eat a bunch of salary his cap hit would be significantly lower than Kuemper’s was both as a total number and a percentage of cap. I think Kuemper is probably the best comparable.