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Old 08-16-2024, 10:02 AM   #19221
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GirlySports, when you say #### like this irl what kind of reaction do you get? It's just so beyond dumb I would literally say to you, 'that's the dumbest ####ing thing I've ever heard' if we were hanging out and you came up with that. Do people stare at you and blink? Do they challenge you? What possesses you to think that is anything but ridiculous?

Surely nobody is saying, 'mmmhmmm, GirlySports, a very astute point, indeed. kamala should certainly abandon her current strategy that has totally deflated trump and upended all the polls in a risky move with no upside to her campaign that could only work to trump's benefit. wise words as per usual'
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Old 08-16-2024, 10:07 AM   #19223
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As someone disgusted by virtually everything about Trump, I can honestly say that when Biden was his competition, these ranting and raving appearances were probably beneficial for the GOP. Despite the insanity of the content, there was an obvious contrast in energy and vitality.

Now, in contrast to Harris (even in her stage-managed appearances), every new Trump show makes him look more and more like the crazy, hard of hearing, desperate old man.

So, yeah...keep them going!
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GirlySports, when you say #### like this irl what kind of reaction do you get? It's just so beyond dumb I would literally say to you, 'that's the dumbest ####ing thing I've ever heard' if we were hanging out and you came up with that. Do people stare at you and blink? Do they challenge you? What possesses you to think that is anything but ridiculous?

Surely nobody is saying, 'mmmhmmm, GirlySports, a very astute point, indeed. kamala should certainly abandon her current strategy that has totally deflated trump and upended all the polls in a risky move with no upside to her campaign that could only work to trump's benefit. wise words as per usual'
Her comments make it seem like she is a closet Trumper just wont come out and say it.
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GirlySports, when you say #### like this irl what kind of reaction do you get? It's just so beyond dumb I would literally say to you, 'that's the dumbest ####ing thing I've ever heard' if we were hanging out and you came up with that. Do people stare at you and blink? Do they challenge you? What possesses you to think that is anything but ridiculous?

Surely nobody is saying, 'mmmhmmm, GirlySports, a very astute point, indeed. kamala should certainly abandon her current strategy that has totally deflated trump and upended all the polls in a risky move with no upside to her campaign that could only work to trump's benefit. wise words as per usual'
I said the Democrat voters are coming home and double-haters are moving to Kamala. No denying that. She's swung the election 8 points.

I'm just curious, can it last? There's still two months to go. Does Trump get a bounceback? What happens if he does? Does Kamala suddenly do interviews? Should she maybe do a few safe ones now?
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Her comments make it seem like she is a closet Trumper just wont come out and say it.
That's funny, we're discussing the Democratic strategy. Why would I care?
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Old 08-16-2024, 10:31 AM   #19227
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I said the Democrat voters are coming home and double-haters are moving to Kamala. No denying that. She's swung the election 8 points.

I'm just curious, can it last? There's still two months to go. Does Trump get a bounceback? What happens if he does? Does Kamala suddenly do interviews? Should she maybe do a few safe ones now?
Yes, Girly. If a strategy change is required she'll change her strategy, obviously.
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Old 08-16-2024, 10:36 AM   #19228
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I said the Democrat voters are coming home and double-haters are moving to Kamala. No denying that. She's swung the election 8 points.

I'm just curious, can it last? There's still two months to go. Does Trump get a bounceback? What happens if he does? Does Kamala suddenly do interviews? Should she maybe do a few safe ones now?
Let’s be clear, Trump is not doing interviews either.
He is doing 90 rants followed by “taking questions” that he doesn’t answer, or uses as a springboard into another rant about how persecuted he is.

And when your “answers” always include “I heard the numbers are xxxx, but I think they are actually so much higher” you aren’t answering questions, you’re just making #### up.
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in that regard, it's always nauseating when I hear Trump talk about Viktor Orban. I mean, I understand why he does, he just loves his dictators and strongmen ... but living in Europe, it just gives you pause when one of the candidates for US president fawns over Hungary of all places and Orban of all people. Not exactly something to take inspiration from.

It's funny though when Trump complains that Orban told him "Europeans are scared of Trump" instead of "respect Trump". Nobody respects you over here, sir. Fear? Sure. But not in the way he'd want ... I'd rather compare it to a coked-up monkey with a machine gun. Sure, I'd be scared of that, but not because it's oh so powerful, but because it's unpredictable and clearly in a situation it should never be in.
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I said the Democrat voters are coming home and double-haters are moving to Kamala. No denying that. She's swung the election 8 points.

I'm just curious, can it last? There's still two months to go. Does Trump get a bounceback? What happens if he does? Does Kamala suddenly do interviews? Should she maybe do a few safe ones now?
Presumably because the DNC is next week, she's going to wait on a lot of things until after that. Still a long time until the election, so not worth worrying about now. Just because Donald is blowing hot air across the country, doesn't mean Kamala needs to match that, or even should.
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That's funny, we're discussing the Democratic strategy. Why would I care?
You sound like a Trump suppourter. You can just come out and say it.

At least he is taking questions, and should keep talking?
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Old 08-16-2024, 10:47 AM   #19232
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I'm just curious, can it last? There's still two months to go. Does Trump get a bounceback? What happens if he does? Does Kamala suddenly do interviews? Should she maybe do a few safe ones now?
There’s not a single scenario where that makes sense.

It’s like suggesting someone should change their work out/nutrition regiment that’s working great for them now, because eventually they might hit a plateau. Or someone should change their current cancer treatment that is working because what if it stops working later.

It’s just literally not how it works. No logical person would ever conclude that someone should change something that is working, while it’s working, on the off chance at some point in the future it stops working.

Scenario 1: Status quo
Benefit: It’s working
Risk: It might stop working

Scenario 2: Tactic change
Benefit: It might stop Scenario 1 from not working in a theoretical situation where Scenario 1 stops working
Risk: It might stop Scenario 1 from working

What logical person is choosing Scenario 2?
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Old 08-16-2024, 10:51 AM   #19233
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There’s not a single scenario where that makes sense.

It’s like suggesting someone should change their work out/nutrition regiment that’s working great for them now, because eventually they might hit a plateau. Or someone should change their current cancer treatment that is working because what if it stops working later.

It’s just literally not how it works. No logical person would ever conclude that someone should change something that is working, while it’s working, on the off chance at some point in the future it stops working.

Scenario 1: Status quo
Benefit: It’s working
Risk: It might stop working

Scenario 2: Tactic change
Benefit: It might stop Scenario 1 from not working in a theoretical situation where Scenario 1 stops working
Risk: It might stop Scenario 1 from working

What logical person is choosing Scenario 2?
It's politics, not a workout regiment. She's running for president.

People don't vote on their whether your workout makes sense or not.
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There’s not a single scenario where that makes sense.

It’s like suggesting someone should change their work out/nutrition regiment that’s working great for them now, because eventually they might hit a plateau. Or someone should change their current cancer treatment that is working because what if it stops working later.

It’s just literally not how it works. No logical person would ever conclude that someone should change something that is working, while it’s working, on the off chance at some point in the future it stops working.

Scenario 1: Status quo
Benefit: It’s working
Risk: It might stop working

Scenario 2: Tactic change
Benefit: It might stop Scenario 1 from not working in a theoretical situation where Scenario 1 stops working
Risk: It might stop Scenario 1 from working

What logical person is choosing Scenario 2?
Tobias...that's who.

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It's politics, not a workout regiment. She's running for president.

People don't vote on their whether your workout makes sense or not.
Sorry, I didn’t realize I was dealing with someone who was unfamiliar with the concept of an analogy.
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yeah, that press conference is going as we all knew it would.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1824188422292115595

oh, the horror!
Hahahaha, that must have been something that was not on the teleprompter, right? Because if it was, his speech writers need to be fired lol. Or unless that tweeter cut that clip off strategically to mislead the viewer.
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Girlysport definitively coming across as a Trump supporter grasping at straws and hoping that Trump will have a bounce back.

They can change tactics if Trump starts crawling back into the race but until that happens the best thing is to let the good vibes roll and let Trump and Vance continue to implode. Trump looks so bad now that he lost his foil in Biden.

It is a relatively short sprint for her and what she is doing is working.
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It's politics, not a workout regiment. She's running for president.

People don't vote on their whether your workout makes sense or not.

Okay then.


Why would anyone - in any scenario - change what's working? Especially in a situation such as this, where this no good actual reason for anyone to not think Trump is a wingnut and MAGA are all loons, but people still love him?
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Because it might stop working eventually, don’t you guys get it? We’re just ruminating on the possibility of needing to change if the right wing talking point hypotheticals regarding the Democratic Party’s candidate come to pass. It’s simple really.
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I'm 99% sure the answer is no, most likely cause he's never seen it, but he does know what this movie was about, right?

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