American Politics 3.0 - Back to Brunch

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

I didnt read it, did the AP article mention that tariffs are ultimately paid by the consumers and he is not in fact taxing foreign countries?
If they didnt then the article fails on its basics. A lot of their political coverage normalizes trump to the detriment of truth.

That would be editorializing or at most an opinion.

There are places in media for those; but most people claim this is where bias is.

A good news website/channel/radio would reach out to experts to discuss whether it is feasible. Not giving weight to "both sides" if there truly isnt a both sides argument - in this case, most econs would agree this is a terrible idea.

Good news sites have news, editorials, opinions as separate but complimentary positions.

AP is news. condensed without editorial.

The Econimist and the Atlantic are pretty much pure editorials, but they don't try to pass off as News, and people that seek them out are looking for that.

The biggest culprit of this, in my opinion, is National Post. That place is just pure opinion nowadays. its not news.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

^At least with The Economist and The Atlantic, you get high quality journalism with thorough analysis. So even if it does editorialize, you learn something useful in the process.

[MoneyGuy]

Texas and Florida are both in play. Not saying the Blue will take them, but they could.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Texas and Florida are both in play. Not saying the Blue will take them, but they could.

Not a chance, there's far too much corruption in the sitting GOP governments in both to allow that to happen. Texas purging 1 million voters is just the first step, there's going to be a lot more voter suppression tactics deployed the closer we get to the election

[SutterBrother]

Thought we had him this time. This time for sure!

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...ncing-delayed/

A New York judge on Friday delayed former President Trump’s sentencing until Nov. 26, a ruling that ensures Trump will not face any criminal punishment until after the election.

Trump has employed delay as a habitual legal strategy, hoping to retake the White House and halt his prosecutions.

He already had successfully dismissed or tied up three of his four criminal cases in pretrial issues until after the election. Friday’s ruling hands Trump a similar victory in his hush money case, the only one to have so far to have culminated in a guilty verdict.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Not a chance, there's far too much corruption in the sitting GOP governments in both to allow that to happen. Texas purging 1 million voters is just the first step, there's going to be a lot more voter suppression tactics deployed the closer we get to the election

I read somewhere (can't remember where, could be fake news) that a lot of those 1 million voters either a) died or b) moved out of state.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

^At least with The Economist and The Atlantic, you get high quality journalism with thorough analysis. So even if it does editorialize, you learn something useful in the process.

100% they produce quality material; and not all of it is from the same agenda/lens.

The Economist at least does acknowledge its "liberalist" ethos, but in terms of main stream politics, it fits the bill for "conservatives" and "liberals"

[MoneyGuy]

He wipes out the savings of his followers but still profits.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1832152691553779868

[Johnny Makarov]

Good. 52 week high on the stock is $66 lol

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Texas isn't far off from being in play.

Big cities vote Democrat, which is why the play for the GOP is now.

Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin are all growing. Texas is becoming less rural.

The immigrants fear mongering doesn't work when they're your friends and neighbors.

In the last election I believe it was Brimingham that was the largest city to vote Republican.

Those trends aren't good for the GOP and they know it. So rather than change their views, they want to eliminate democracy.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

Thought we had him this time. This time for sure!

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...ncing-delayed/

Typical. If this was any other convicted felon, these ridiculous delays would never happen and the person would have already been sentenced by now. The U.S. justice system fails yet again.

[Jacks]

Dick Cheney says he's voting for Harris and that Trump can't be trusted with power. You have to be a really really bad candidate to get Dick to vote blue, I know his daughter hates Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/polit...ent/index.html

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Dick Cheney says he's voting for Harris and that Trump can't be trusted with power. You have to be a really really bad candidate to get Dick to vote blue, I know his daughter hates Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/polit...ent/index.html

Good to see they're locking up the coveted war criminal demographic.

[Ped]

The ads write themselves: "Even DICK CHENEY wouldn't vote for this ####er!"

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Ped

The ads write themselves: "Even DICK CHENEY wouldn't vote for this ####er!"

I don't know. I wouldn't be shouting from the rooftops and bragging if Jeffrey Dahmer was voting for me, and Cheney is responsible for significantly more horrors than Dahmer was.

[Senator Clay Davis]

On the flip side the Dems lost Dershowitz today. Relativity to the extreme, but it does feel like a minor win to swap in a warmonger and swap out a pedo.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I don't know. I wouldn't be shouting from the rooftops and bragging if Jeffrey Dahmer was voting for me, and Cheney is responsible for significantly more horrors than Dahmer was.

I wasn't being serious that it's something to be proud of, but it is definitely something to note.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

Texas and Florida are both in play. Not saying the Blue will take them, but they could.

I would lay money on the Dems winning Texas at some point in the next 20 years, but I'm not certain they even sniff Florida. Florida is a strange alliance, stuffed full of the children of Cuban conservative value immigrants, along with pseudo-libertarian hippies who got rich off of a post war economy that propped there parents up and rapid population explosion / economic expansion that allowed the young to build business and rise through to corporate ranks in a way that just isn't possible anymore, who truly believe they earned everything themselves instead of taking the time to understand that a society constructs and supports it's own. These people are dumb enough to believe that Castro was a commie, that the Dems want a Cuba like economy, and that they could have succeeded without the rampant socialism of post war America, Which is exactly the type of stupidity that supports Trump.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I can't see Texas in play even in the next 20. Trump is a monumentally horrible candidate and he's won Texas comfortably each time. Assuming he losses, MAGA probably gets purged from the Republican party and they can go back to the Bush neocon types and that makes Texas an easy win for them. If Trump wins, pretty good chance there won't be elections in 20 years.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I can't see Texas in play even in the next 20. Trump is a monumentally horrible candidate and he's won Texas comfortably each time. Assuming he losses, MAGA probably gets purged from the Republican party and they can go back to the Bush neocon types and that makes Texas an easy win for them. If Trump wins, pretty good chance there won't be elections in 20 years.

I can see it. The thing is, it's not so much "Winning Texas" as it is "Urban Population exceeds Rural Population".

When Dallas + Houston + San Antonio + Austin >>> Everywhere else... then Texas goes Democrat.

As much as we think of the Electoral College as Big State vs Small State, it's actually Urban vs Rural. States with big cities that have more people than Rural areas go Blue.