By-Law Regarding Auto Repairs

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by bensonchuong

I edited out councilor because people are assuming he's the one that complained. I was merely just giving a context of where I lived.

My parents live here, those rebuilt engines are vehicles on our driveway. We sold their previous vehicles. Some one is usually not home or I'll park the vehicle I'm working on in the garage when I'm working on it. We have ample street parking there's room for 3 cars in front of my house on the street.

With 6 vehicles that's 12 tire swaps a year (spring and winter), plus 2-3 oil changes per year per vehicle. My uncles comes 3-4 times a year (2 oil changes and 2 tire swaps).

The key is here is by-law is fine I do work on my 6 vehicles, but since my uncles doesn't live here it's not allowed with out a licence.

The way you stated it made it seem like you were hinting the councilor was the reason for the bylaw visit.

I am aware that it's ok for you to work on the 6 cars you own, I am saying I get why your neighbours are annoyed and thing you are running a business. Between your cars and your 'family' cars there would be a lot of work. You seem like you would work on friends cars too, no?

You also said you park 2 in the garage and 4 on the driveway, now you're changing that to you have ample street parking, so I'm guessing you don't park 4 on your driveway and park on the street?

[puckedoff]

The only reason that it is more auto work "than the average person" is because people are dolts who don't know how to work on their own machines anymore.

Who cares if it is 2 cars, 4 cars or ten. Its his driveway, he can spend his time in it as he pleases. People get so wound up these days over what their neighbours should/shouldn't be doing its crazy.

[bensonchuong]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

The way you stated it made it seem like you were hinting the councilor was the reason for the bylaw visit.

I am aware that it's ok for you to work on the 6 cars you own, I am saying I get why your neighbours are annoyed and thing you are running a business. Between your cars and your 'family' cars there would be a lot of work. You seem like you would work on friends cars too, no?

You also said you park 2 in the garage and 4 on the driveway, now you're changing that to you have ample street parking, so I'm guessing you don't park 4 on your driveway and park on the street?

I'm saying I have room to park one car on the street for the 2 hours when i'm doing an oil change.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

The only reason that it is more auto work "than the average person" is because people are dolts who don't know how to work on their own machines anymore.

Who cares if it is 2 cars, 4 cars or ten. Its his driveway, he can spend his time in it as he pleases. People get so wound up these days over what their neighbours should/shouldn't be doing its crazy.

Firstly, the reason he does more work than most people is because 6 cars are registered at the house. 6 Cars is more than more people own. Secondly, just because people don't work on their cars doesn't make them 'dolts'. These 'dolts' keep handy non-dolts employed by taking their cars to them to have them fixed.

Likely his neighbours care? Obviously bylaw cares. If he wants to work on his cars go nuts, maybe it'll be annoying to his neighbours maybe it won't. Follow the noise and this business bylaw and he can't get in trouble.

[Weitz]

I know with my extra money I buy depreciating assets like cars. Because 2 ain't enough.

[bensonchuong]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I know with my extra money I buy depreciating assets like cars. Because 2 ain't enough.

5 people live here and we have have to work in remote areas, so driving is a must.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by bensonchuong

I'm saying I have room to park one car on the street for the 2 hours when i'm doing an oil change.

I'm betting if this is actually the case no one would complain.

They are likely complaining because you have a bunch of cars that you work on that makes it look like you're running a business and by the wording of the bylaw you got dinged.

Even you have to admit you are working on a lot of cars, enough to the point it could look like you run a business out of your garage.

[81MC]

The increase in traffic is such a crock. Any yahoo can turn their house into an Air BnB, which in my experience creates far more random traffic than someone doing some side work. My neighbour has a double garage, yet the entire corner is full of constant visitors, half of whom park in front of my other elderly neighbours residence.
If the complaint is about noise, or fumes, or whatever that’s one thing, and entirely different than requiring a business license due to a bogus traffic increase expense.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I know with my extra money I buy depreciating assets like cars. Because 2 ain't enough.

Depends what car you're buying...

[Madman]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I'm betting if this is actually the case no one would complain.

They are likely complaining because you have a bunch of cars that you work on that makes it look like you're running a business and by the wording of the bylaw you got dinged.

Even you have to admit you are working on a lot of cars, enough to the point it could look like you run a business out of your garage.

Seriously. If you owned 2 and 1 came over here and there, then I bet there's no issue. Right now you have at least 7....7! cars you're actively working on, you might as well have a Kal Tire sign out front.

[zamler]

How does one get an engine into the basement.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by zamler

How does one get an engine into the basement.

The stairs. Duh.

[Shazam]

Offer the councillor free oil changes and tire changes.

[btimbit]

Unless you were running air tools reqlly late into the evening and leaving dirty parts around the front yard I really don't see any issue here.

[Corral]

By the time bylaw officers get around to investigating a dispute between neighbours, in my experience things are already pretty bad along the street because it means everyone is past the point of trying to resolve differences amongst themselves - likely because stuff has been going on for years.

Rarely if ever are these sort of disputes simply because of one or an isolated set of circumstances.

[puckedoff]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Firstly, the reason he does more work than most people is because 6 cars are registered at the house. 6 Cars is more than more people own.

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Yeah but so what? Some people own more fish tanks than others, some have more japanese sex dolls, some have more movies and some have more cars. Honestly I don't see a problem here.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

Yeah but so what? Some people own more fish tanks than others, some have more japanese sex dolls, some have more movies and some have more cars. Honestly I don't see a problem here.

Optics.

He has 6 registered cars and works on them frequently it sounds like. When a couple extra cars for family/friends show up maybe his neighbours are already a little annoyed with the amount of work being done and report it.

If he had 2 or 3 cars of his own, and also another 2 or 3 family cars maybe people don’t care.

[Northendzone]

6 or so cars, rebuilding engines several times per year, family members coming over for oil changes and tire swaps.....awesome. This hardly sounds like a garage at all.

Folks may collect other stuff, but when you have this much action happening on the outside of your house, folks are bound to get prickly.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

This hardly sounds like a garage at all.

If you are the neighbourhood busybody then you're already dialing at four cars.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

6 or so cars, rebuilding engines several times per year, family members coming over for oil changes and tire swaps.....awesome. This hardly sounds like a garage at all.

Folks may collect other stuff, but when you have this much action happening on the outside of your house, folks are bound to get prickly.

By my count, 8 vehicles get worked on, 4-6 times per year each. That's about 48 service jobs per year, not including any major work (which also seems to be happening). That's almost a job per week on a car. I can see how that might attract negative attention. An early how people might think there was an actual unlicensed home business going on.

Part of this , of course, is that back when I grew up, garages were all facing the alley so this kind of stuff wasn't a big deal. Guys worked on cars all the time.