07-10-2019, 06:18 PM
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#201
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yes because the Flames had a horrible season without him in their lineup. Reminds me of the whiners that said the Sven Baertschi trade was a mistake and would haunt the Flames. Stocking up on ex-Flames has not paid large dividends for the Canucks.
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Big difference between Sven Baertschi and Michael Ferland.
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07-10-2019, 06:18 PM
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#202
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Lethbridge
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I like Ferland but isn’t it a little foolish of Benning to be spending the Canucks cap space on older free agents (Myers) rather then the future contracts of their core young players?
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07-10-2019, 06:22 PM
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#203
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja
I like Ferland but isn’t it a little foolish of Benning to be spending the Canucks cap space on older free agents (Myers) rather then the future contracts of their core young players?
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It doesn't carry over like phone minutes
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07-10-2019, 06:25 PM
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#204
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Yeah, further to that, I see real question marks around Ferland away from the ice as well.
I think consistency of effort is a real thing and I think it's been a main issue in Ferland not crossing that threshold.
It's not some big deal or anything, I just as a rule wouldn't be giving term to guys like that. I'd rather pay a bit more up front for the increased flexibility.
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What??? All I've heard is the exact opposite. He had that intervention and recovery all those years back and then talks about how much becoming sober has changed his life about once a year since.
Do you have new information that suggests something's changed or did you just not know the story of his sobriety?
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07-10-2019, 06:27 PM
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#205
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by afc wimbledon
It doesn't carry over like phone minutes
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What?
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07-10-2019, 06:39 PM
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#206
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Franchise Player
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Canucks have done real well in rounding out there forwards with guys that are tough to play against by adding Ferland and miller.
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07-10-2019, 06:39 PM
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#207
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by jayswin
What??? All I've heard is the exact opposite. He had that intervention and recovery all those years back and then talks about how much becoming sober has changed his life about once a year since.
Do you have new information that suggests something's changed or did you just not know the story of his sobriety?
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Oh, i didn't mean anything in terms of his sobriety but I can see how what i said came across that way.
basing it on burke's public comments about them being unable to 'reach' ferland over the latter half of the season. Frankly, that's a staggering admission from the former president of hockey ops.
Guys who are difficult to motivate are usually like that most/all of their careers. Rene Bourque for example.
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07-10-2019, 06:56 PM
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#208
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Franchise Player
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Friggin traitor
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07-10-2019, 07:02 PM
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#209
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: ---
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So glad we avoided this contract. I think people forget the inconsistent Ferland we had for 2/3 of the time. It’s unfortunate but he’s gotten his bell rung too many times and he can’t play the game too many people in here fondly remember him by. He might be able to show flash in the pan performances of it. But he can’t be that guy night in night out.
Wish him the best of luck and hopefully he’s able to stay healthy. But very pleased we didn’t fall for nostalgia on this one and bring back someone who isn’t who we remembered them as.
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07-10-2019, 07:12 PM
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#210
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
So glad we avoided this contract. I think people forget the inconsistent Ferland we had for 2/3 of the time. It’s unfortunate but he’s gotten his bell rung too many times and he can’t play the game too many people in here fondly remember him by. He might be able to show flash in the pan performances of it. But he can’t be that guy night in night out.
Wish him the best of luck and hopefully he’s able to stay healthy. But very pleased we didn’t fall for nostalgia on this one and bring back someone who isn’t who we remembered them as.
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Whether the points were coming consistently or not, a 40 point winger on a reasonable deal like this would absolutely be a benefit
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07-10-2019, 07:16 PM
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#211
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: ---
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Whether the points were coming consistently or not, a 40 point winger on a reasonable deal like this would absolutely be a benefit
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We scored lots last year. We need to address team toughness IMO which would of been the reason why we would of circled around on Ferland.
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07-10-2019, 07:17 PM
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#212
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flaming Homer
We scored lots last year. We need to address team toughness IMO which would of been the reason why we would of circled around on Ferland.
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Sounds good to me, too bad Calgary was likely one of the teams only offering 3 years
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07-10-2019, 07:19 PM
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#213
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Scoring Winger
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Good to see him get some security with the 4 year contract.
Sucks that it's with the Canucks
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07-10-2019, 07:35 PM
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#214
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Around the world
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I’m old enough to remember when people were saying Ferland would command $7M+ AAV on the open market. Life comes at you fast.
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07-10-2019, 07:41 PM
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#215
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Not the 1 millionth post winnar
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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How many concussions? I want to say 4? One last year for sure. Too much term and NTC for a physical player with that history.
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07-10-2019, 07:46 PM
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#216
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mister__big
I’m old enough to remember when people were saying Ferland would command $7M+ AAV on the open market. Life comes at you fast.
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If the cap went up the way it was expected too, some dummy just might have offered him $5+
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07-10-2019, 07:47 PM
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#217
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First Line Centre
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Ferland is inconsistent with his toughness - just like his offense.
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07-10-2019, 07:47 PM
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#218
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Calgary, AB
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Oh mannnnnn... any team but them and the oilers. Love Ferland
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07-10-2019, 08:08 PM
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#219
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Husky
Ferland is inconsistent with his toughness - just like his offense.
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Yeah, and if he wasn’t inconsistent he’d be an 80 point player and the perfect power forward...and he’d make 9M.
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07-10-2019, 08:14 PM
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#220
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
Yeah, and if he wasn’t inconsistent he’d be an 80 point player and the perfect power forward...and he’d make 9M.
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Also, his hitting is pretty consistent. Not sure where that narrative comes from, but the data doesn't support it.
His offense? That's a different story.
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