[PGT] Flames 3 - Flyers 2 (SO)

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

how do you reconcile the fact that this team, with virtually same lineup, won the western regular season title last year then, if 'Peters doesn't really know the strengths and weaknesses of the players, and this is making the players frustrated.'?

This included a number of them having career highs in points/goals what have you...

Didn't the Flames have an unusual number of comebacks last season? I think Harry's point is that the team seems to somewhat abandon systems late in games in an effort to come back; Playing more to their strengths using speed, agility and skills to make something happen.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

how do you reconcile the fact that this team, with virtually same lineup, won the western regular season title last year then, if 'Peters doesn't really know the strengths and weaknesses of the players, and this is making the players frustrated.'?

This included a number of them having career highs in points/goals what have you...

The NHL adjusted, and Peters adjustment to that adjustment was to play meat and potatoes hockey, much like you would ask an untalented team to play. That leaves actual talent out to dry. It's lazy.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by 868904

The problem with having Lindholm centre his own line is it leaves Mony and Johnny with no help defensively. Those two suck in their own end. That’s the reason they haven’t moved Lindholm to centre. Until they can find a two way defensively responsible winger for those two, Lindholm is going to spend most of his time with them.

And no, the answer is not Frolik.

The answer was Mark Stone.

Solved by moving Backlund to wing with Monahan, Lindholm to centre. I’d put Tkachuk with Monahan and maybe Mangiapane with Lindholm and Gaudreau.

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by 868904

The problem with having Lindholm centre his own line is it leaves Mony and Johnny with no help defensively. Those two suck in their own end. That’s the reason they haven’t moved Lindholm to centre. Until they can find a two way defensively responsible winger for those two, Lindholm is going to spend most of his time with them.

And no, the answer is not Frolik.

The answer was Mark Stone.

The answer was found two games ago.

Tkachuk-Monahan-Mangiapane was a good, high functioning line.

That left Gaudreau and Lindholm to find a third to make a strong second line. Peters abandoned this experiment the next game. That left us with the year long tire fire of Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm to continue, because they are 'going to figure it out'.

[CsInMyBlood]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

I think it was a set play. Especially since Andersson would likely have grown up idolizing Nik Lidstrom, who used this play at least once a night.

Does anybody actually believe that wasn't a set play?

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by CsInMyBlood

Does anybody actually believe that wasn't a set play?

https://www.nhl.com/flames/video/pos...7092/c-4662771

Well if you watch the video, he says it was a lucky play and he was just trying to get the puck on net.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The NHL adjusted, and Peters adjustment to that adjustment was to play meat and potatoes hockey, much like you would ask an untalented team to play. That leaves actual talent out to dry. It's lazy.

Disagree. Cycling is extremely effective in terms of possession and wearing down the opposition. It’s been an integral part of hockey ever since I’ve been watching.

If the Flames can’t cycle at all and have no ability to dump and retrieve they’ll go nowhere in the tighter checking playoffs. Don’t get me wrong I’m not saying every line should dump and chase all the time but sometimes it’s a play you have to utilize.

Why has the Ryan line been good lately? Good puck possession, good cycling, good puck retrieval. The rest of the lines need to take notice.

What’s lazy is our players. They won’t show up to start the game and have trouble fighting through adversity. Their work ethic is extremely inconsistent. The coach seems to be the exact opposite of lazy I’d say based on all reports.

There seems to be something rotten with the core and some of you just wanna stick your fingers in your ears and pretend it’s always coaching. The players are the ones not showing up for large parts of the first 40 mins

[868904]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Solved by moving Backlund to wing with Monahan, Lindholm to centre. I’d put Tkachuk with Monahan and maybe Mangiapane with Lindholm and Gaudreau.

I think that works too.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

Although you don’t want to be in that position, the Flames execution of the 6 on 5 when we pulled Rittich was some of our best crafted play this season.

If you watch Peters' interview post-game, when he's asked about that he gets a little smirk on his face briefly, then wipes it and says that of course one doesn't want to be in that position...

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

If it is, that's some serious top flight level of working the angles. Perhaps they spend a lot if time at the pool table.

Almost every team practices set plays like that now a days. The Wings started the trend back in the 2000's.

[crapshoot]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Almost every team practices set plays like that now a days. The Wings started the trend back in the 2000's.

Yeah, not saying it wasn't a set play. Only saying that it's a very, very high risk move at that point in the game. Getting the right angle and the right bounce is not exactly a certainty.