2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

No

Mcdavid lead his team to the playoffs. RNH was part of that.

Both are miles ahead of Hall who leads his team's to top 5 lottery picks. And who has former teammates opining how he would only show up in games once the Oilers were down and out.

He was very much a passenger in that. Ryan Nothing-Happens at best belongs beside Hall.

[Love]

nm

[sureLoss]

Dreger on Sakic's asking price for Duchene:

https://www.fanragsports.com/dreger-...duchene-trade/

Sakic may feel less pressure to trade Duchene while the club is putting a few wins together, but eventually another team will have to pay the piper to get the talented forward off that Avalanche roster.

So where do things stand on that asking price, anyway?

“It’s been three pieces,” reiterated Dreger. “That’s kind of been the ask from the get-go. My understanding is Sakic has changed his view on the type of defenseman he needs. I think at the draft he was pretty specific. He wanted a young left-shot D as part of the package, and then a prospect – a highly-touted prospect – and a big-time draft pick.

“My understanding is, from those with interest, that maybe he’s shifted a little bit. But he still wants a real good Top 3/top-pairing defenseman, and a good prospect, and a top draft pick. And my sense is he hasn’t relented from that position yet.”

In addition to the apparent slight shift of the specific left-shot defenseman Sakic had been seeking, he may also be wanting or willing to go even a tad younger on the already-young main acquisition pieces.

This is what Elliotte Friedman had to say about a Duchene deal during a recent radio appearance.

“I get the sense that what is going on here is that I think they’re going to hold him for a bit – I mean, famous last words, I’ll hang up and he gets traded – but I think they’re going to hold him for a bit. But what I think they’re going to do is they’re going to do some pretty heavy scouting of team prospects. I think it’s possible now that teams may not want to give some stuff up off their roster, so I think what they could be doing is looking at some guys who may be in juniors or the NCAA or the minors. Guys who are legit prospects, but simply aren’t ready yet or aren’t at the NHL level yet. And that takes time. I did get some indication this week that that could be happening.”

[Beninho]

Well Adam Fox may be right on top of their lists of college Dmen then...

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Well Adam Fox may be right on top of their lists of college Dmen then...

Would a offer of Fox, Phillips and Brouwer at 50% retained and a 2019 Conditional 3 (conditional of Duchene Re-signing with the Flames)

For

Duchene + 2019 Conditional 2nd ( if he doesn't re-sign we at least get a 2nd rounder )

Would that make sense for either team or both or neither?

May be too rich for some and perhaps underwhelming for others and that all depends on how Phillips translates his game to the bigs, if he can.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by IgiTang

Would a offer of Fox, Phillips and Brouwer at 50% retained and a 2019 Conditional 3 (conditional of Duchene Re-signing with the Flames)

For

Duchene + 2019 Conditional 2nd ( if he doesn't re-sign we at least get a 2nd rounder )

Would that make sense for either team or both or neither?

May be too rich for some and perhaps underwhelming for others and that all depends on how Phillips translates his game to the bigs, if he can.

I'm thinking Colorado would want more in terms of picks and a more established player. I wouldn't be inclined to give them what they want because what they want is a kings ransom for Duchene and he's not worth it imo.

[Sandman]

I've said this before, but IMO Duchene is highly overrated, and is only signed for this year and next. I think he's a faster, glorified version of Eberle-I hope BT stays away.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by alan21

A jinx or a reflection of his selfish one dimensional play that doesn't win hockey games?

Pick one.

[Mass_nerder]

I think at this point, duchene is a known commodity around the league. We'll see sakic forced to sit on him until the deadline, where he'll have to drop his price significantly.
I don't think any team is going to give up all three, so sakic will have to decide what combo of 2/3 works for him.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Beninho

I'm thinking Colorado would want more in terms of picks and a more established player. I wouldn't be inclined to give them what they want because what they want is a kings ransom for Duchene and he's not worth it imo.

Originally Posted by Sandman

I've said this before, but IMO Duchene is highly overrated, and is only signed for this year and next. I think he's a faster, glorified version of Eberle-I hope BT stays away.

I completely agree. I'm just thinking that if a deal was to happen between the Flames, with said criteria what the Flames could do without doing too much damage to other positional depth.

That said, my proposal certainly isn't better than the Isles offer previously of Hamonic and a 1st rounder.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Top 3/top-pairing defenseman, and a good prospect, and a top draft pick.

That's the "reduced price"?! lol

kid only has 2 years left on his contract... and if he doesn't want to re-sign with you, you're going to be shopping him by next year's draft....

I think the Avs would be lucky to get 2 out of those 3 pieces they've requested.

[FireGilbert]

Originally Posted by oldschoolcalgary

That's the "reduced price"?! lol

kid only has 2 years left on his contract... and if he doesn't want to re-sign with you, you're going to be shopping him by next year's draft....

I think the Avs would be lucky to get 2 out of those 3 pieces they've requested.

Yep that a ridiculous asking price. If that was Calgary it would be Brodie, Jankowski, and the 2019 1st rounder. No chance in hell he is worth that much.

Considering Duchene only has two years left and is more of a complimentary player a reasonable trade would be a top 3 Dman OR a good prospect and a mid round draft pick OR a mid prospect and a top draft pick.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

No

Mcdavid lead his team to the playoffs. RNH was part of that.

Both are miles ahead of Hall who leads his team's to top 5 lottery picks. And who has former teammates opining how he would only show up in games once the Oilers were down and out.

Wait until we find out that RNH was a hockeyesque Cyrano de Bergerac, whispering "Let's go" on the bench.

[Erick Estrada]

I don't know what the offers were for Duchene in the summer but I can't imagine they are going to be better the longer they wait seeing he's now less than two seasons away from free agency. I suppose the is hope a team feels they can make a playoff run will go all in on him but what teams like that can afford to give up a top 3 defensemen?

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I don't know what the offers were for Duchene in the summer but I can't imagine they are going to be better the longer they wait seeing he's now less than two seasons away from free agency. I suppose the is hope a team feels they can make a playoff run will go all in on him but what teams like that can afford to give up a top 3 defensemen?

Maybe Nashville. But do you trade any of Ellis, Josi, Ekholm, or Subban for Duchene? Ellis and Subban, definitely no. Josi probably not. The Flames and Rangers are pretty well-positioned for such a trade. Blue Jackets? They don't really need him

I feel the best the Avs can do at this point is a top-4 defenseman and a prospect

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Josi would be a definite no for Nashville. I could see them in he mix, in particular if they think the can make some noise in the playoffs again. Fabbro and what should be a low first rounder?

[calgaryblood]

Originally Posted by Machiavelli

Maybe Nashville. But do you trade any of Ellis, Josi, Ekholm, or Subban for Duchene? Ellis and Subban, definitely no. Josi probably not. The Flames and Rangers are pretty well-positioned for such a trade. Blue Jackets? They don't really need him

I feel the best the Avs can do at this point is a top-4 defenseman and a prospect

Josi is their best d man so definitely a no.

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by calgaryblood

Josi is their best d man so definitely a no.

Disagree

[1qqaaz]

Trade a top 5 defenseman on earth (with the best contract in the league) for a soft top-line UFA?

Even if it was Landeskog + Duchene, I doubt the deal would get done.

[Love]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I've said this before, but IMO Duchene is highly overrated, and is only signed for this year and next. I think he's a faster, glorified version of Eberle-I hope BT stays away.

I'm not advocating for this deal or anything, but they said a lot worse than that about Kessel when he played in TO and he has been instrumental to both of Pittsburgh's cup wins since he's been there.