2019/2020 Trade Speculation and Rumors 2.0

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

As already noted, they could be talking to Vancouver about acquiring his rights.

Is inquiring really being "in on"? The Canucks are trying to re-sign him, they aren't going to be even listening to offers from the Flames and Avs

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Crown Royal

So they are accusing the Flames and Avs of tampering? Because if the Canucks are trying to re-sign Markstrom, they won't be trying to trade him and these teams cannot talk to him until free agency opens.

I just went back on the tuneIn app and replayed it. So the afternoon guy from 650 in Vancouver (something Shaw?) was talking yesterday about Markstrom and referencing someone else saying they heard the Flames and Avs are in. Shaw then says:

“Eric (not sure of that is the name) thinks that there will be 2 other teams after him Colorado and Calgary and I can say one team assuredly is and that is Calgary”

[Toonage]

If the two sides are far apart and Markstrom has indicated he is going to FA then yes, they'd listen to an offer.

And being in on someone's rights with the intent to sign them long term is still being in on a player.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

As already noted, they could be talking to Vancouver about acquiring his rights.

They could be but would Vancouver negotiate that in good faith if they think they’ve got a shot themselves? If they are talking to Vancouver about rights I think Vancouver must believe their own chances are slim.

[Vinny01]

They were thinking all 3 teams have the same money. Avs don’t want to go term, and Calgary and Vancouver are in similar ball parks. Will the Flames give the contractual asks that Markstrom will want?

[dammage79]

I think the Avs win the Markstrom sweeps if he doesn't sign in Vancouver. They can out bid the Flames willy nilly.

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I just went back on the tuneIn app and replayed it. So the afternoon guy from 650 in Vancouver (something Shaw?) was talking yesterday about Markstrom and referencing someone else saying they heard the Flames and Avs are in. Shaw then says:

“Eric (not sure of that is the name) thinks that there will be 2 other teams after him Colorado and Calgary and I can say one team assuredly is and that is Calgary”

That makes way more sense.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

As already noted, they could be talking to Vancouver about acquiring his rights.

Hell, if negotiations fall apart with Vancouver and we can snag Markstrom's rights for a 3rd or so - as much as I want Kuemper, that's a huge win - but there are some reports out there that Vancouver does look like they'll get a contract with Markstrom done.

Hard to argue for a Kuemper trade without knowing what happens with Markstrom though.

Originally Posted by Vinny01

They were thinking all 3 teams have the same money. Avs don’t want to go term, and Calgary and Vancouver are in similar ball parks. Will the Flames give the contractual asks that Markstrom will want?

Markstrom wanting expansion draft assurances is where Calgary becomes really appealing (in comparison to Vancouver).

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think the Avs win the Markstrom sweeps if he doesn't sign in Vancouver. They can out bid the Flames willy nilly.

Not if Markstrom wants term and Colorado sticks true to their managing of the cap in preparation for "tomorrow".

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Yeah there's no "being in on" at this stage.

Clearly the Flames are after a goalie upgrade - but there's no way the Flames or the Ads are "in on" Markstrom at this stage as he belongs to Vancouver. Perhaps he knows the Flames will be in on him if he hits free agency, but as of today that's not possible.

Rumblings only Vancouver is the Flames have expressed some interest. They are not talking deal or anything like that (unless rights are being traded).

I think Players can catch wind of who is looking to offer them a deal and it is not necessarily tampering. If they are talking term and $ then that is a different scenario

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think the Avs win the Markstrom sweeps if he doesn't sign in Vancouver. They can out bid the Flames willy nilly.

The arguement is the Avs wouldn’t want to go 5-6 years and are looking at short term deals. If the Avs match the term then I assume he would sign there.

In Vancouver he is going to want assurance he is going to be protected and with Demko I am not sure Benning will want to do that? Treliving can definitely offer that assurance.

[chummer]

If I'm Vancouver I let Markstrom walk, Demko sure likes like a capable number 1. Huge cap savings, maybe sign Talbot as a capable backup. They also wouldn't have to worry who to protect next year in the expansion draft.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think the Avs win the Markstrom sweeps if he doesn't sign in Vancouver. They can out bid the Flames willy nilly.

They have a bit more cap space but they also are carrying two goalies already. They have some big re-signings to achieve as well - Burakovsky, Nikushkin, Jost, Graves and Zadorov and they have to decide to keep Namesnikov as well. They also have to think about Makar in the next season as well - he’s going to want to get paid.

[Poe969]

If it means not trading their first for an ok goalie, sign any UFA available.

Signing Markstrom and keeping the first round pick is way more appealing than trading the first for 2 years of Kempner.

[Toonage]

^ Markstrom is the same age as Kuemper as well. Just makes more sense

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by chummer

If I'm Vancouver I let Markstrom walk, Demko sure likes like a capable number 1. Huge cap savings, maybe sign Talbot as a capable backup. They also wouldn't have to worry who to protect next year in the expansion draft.

Vancouver fans may prefer to get assets for Demko if they can and keep Markstrom. If they think Demko is a long term number 1 I agree let Markstrom walk

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Poe969

If it means not trading their first for an ok goalie, sign any UFA available.

Signing Markstrom and keeping the first round pick is way more appealing than trading the first for 2 years of Kempner.

Well, the 2 years of Kuemper likely becomes longer - so really it's 2 years for Kuemper at 4.5M + potential of longer.

Markstrom, if he hits market, it's likely 5-6 years with a cap-hit of 5.5-6.5M

[GioforPM]

Demko’s sample size is pretty small to be making that move away from someone who’s finally proven themselves like Markstrom. But it’s Vancouver and they’ve pulled that move before.

[Vinny01]

Maybe it is just because I see more of Markstrom than Kuemper but all things being equal I prefer Markstrom.

Markstrom might only cost cap space but likely requires a 5-6 year deal at 5-6M
Kuemper is locked in at 4.5 for 2 years but from all accounts costs a 1st to acquire.

[Tbull8]

Would anyone be interested in making a deal for Grubauer? If the Avs decide to go with Markstrom and Francouz?

[Crown Royal]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think the Avs win the Markstrom sweeps if he doesn't sign in Vancouver. They can out bid the Flames willy nilly.

Can the Avs off him term? They have Zadarov as an RFA now, Makar and Landeskog need new contracts after next year.