04-28-2014, 09:26 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary, AB
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Norris Finalists: Chara, Keith, Weber
NHL has announced the 3 finalists for the Norris Trophy
Zdeno Chara, Duncan Keith and Shea Weber.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=450678
No Gio? Pfft.
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04-28-2014, 09:28 AM
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Duncan Keith for sure. Played a fantastic game this year.
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04-28-2014, 09:29 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I am goin' with Keith on this one. A huge reason why Chicago continues to have success.
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04-28-2014, 09:29 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Spin a wheel, they all deserve it but my money goes to Keith.
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04-28-2014, 09:30 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Hoping for Weber. I put money on it at the beginning of the season.
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04-28-2014, 09:31 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strombad
Duncan Keith for sure. Played a fantastic game this year.
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While I agree, I think Weber is just a beast in his own right. Both Keith and Chara have an incredible supporting cast which makes point production a little easier. 23 goals and 33 assists was very impressive.
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04-28-2014, 09:32 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Calgary, AB
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I'd go with Keith for sure. The best of the 3 in my opinion.
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04-28-2014, 09:33 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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does team success come into play at all? I won't pick Weber because of that. I think there should be an element of team success and with that Chara and Keith are the front runners. My money is on Keith though, he is a beast.
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04-28-2014, 09:41 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Keith gets a ton of points... but the other guys are much better. Keith doesn't go up against top players and I think that's a key to this award.
EDIT: That chart posted above is good.
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04-28-2014, 09:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Between Chara and Keith I would probably go with Keith as without him I don't think the Hawks would be an elite team as unlike the Bruins the Hawks get only good but not elite goaltending. I would have voted Suter over Weber as Suter was right behind Brian Leetch's minutes per game record this year. The guy plays essentially half of every Wild game and without him they would be nowhere near a playoff team.
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04-28-2014, 09:49 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Keith gets a ton of points... but the other guys are much better. Keith doesn't go up against top players and I think that's a key to this award.
EDIT: That chart posted above is good.
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Meh. That's just good coaching. Line up your offensive guy against the weakest competition to me is proper strategy. Subban and Karlsson have proven you don't have to be stellar in your own end to win the Norris.
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04-28-2014, 09:51 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Meh. That's just good coaching. Line up your offensive guy against the weakest competition to me is proper strategy. Subban and Karlsson have proven you don't have to be stellar in your own end to win the Norris.
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Those 2 probably shouldn't have won the Norris.
Best offensive defenceman, sure, but they are not close to being among the best overall defencemen.
The voters don't know what the Norris trophy is.
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04-28-2014, 09:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Those 2 probably shouldn't have won the Norris.
Best offensive defenceman, sure, but they are not close to being among the best overall defencemen.
The voters don't know what the Norris trophy is.
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Well they did in successive years so what's your point? You claim the voters don't know but maybe it's you that doesn't know. IMO the Paul Coffee vs Scott Stevens type debates have been going on for decades to what makes the best defenseman. It's an overall vote. Keith may not be a shut down defenseman but he's an integral piece of one of the best NHL teams of the past decade and arguably he and Teows are the straws that stir that drink. You can make a very good argument for Chara but not Weber. Weber is good and all but since Suter left town he's kind of been exposed a little bit being a minus player over the past few years. I look at it as the Preds were a playoff team with Suter and Weber and the Wild were not a playoff team. The Wild get Suter and they are a playoff team and the Preds no longer.
Last edited by Erick Estrada; 04-28-2014 at 09:59 AM.
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04-28-2014, 09:56 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Well they did in successive years so what's your point?
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That the voters don't know what they're doing.
Weber should win this year, but he won't. Keith will win, but he really doesn't even deserve a nomination.
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04-28-2014, 09:59 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: In the now
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Good to see it's not just 1-2-3 in points. Leaving out Karlsson shows that there's still room for pure defensive play in this award. I'd still take Chara over anyone else in his own end, but probably have to give it to Keith based on his superb play in both ends, regardless of his easier deployment. Seeing Weber there (being on a pretty horrible team) makes me think that 18 games was the only thing between Gio and a nomination. Kinda sad.
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04-28-2014, 09:59 AM
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First Line Centre
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At least there is no Karlsson, Subban 6th forward stuff going on this year.
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04-28-2014, 10:00 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
That the voters don't know what they're doing.
Weber should win this year, but he won't. Keith will win, but he really doesn't even deserve a nomination.
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LOL okay.
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04-28-2014, 10:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
Those 2 probably shouldn't have won the Norris.
Best offensive defenceman, sure, but they are not close to being among the best overall defencemen.
The voters don't know what the Norris trophy is.
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Makes sense.
The people who decide the winner of an award obviously don't know who deserves to win the award.
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