03-22-2018, 08:29 PM
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#21
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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It's Treliving. He'd be looking to add a first even if we already had 3
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03-22-2018, 08:33 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Don’t sell low and do something stupid.
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03-22-2018, 08:44 PM
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#23
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I disagree. I think Ferland is a must-trade in the offseason. I am almost 100% confident that his value will never be higher.
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Be that as it may, you still need to be able to replace him with a better player.
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03-22-2018, 08:46 PM
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#24
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lethbridge Alberta
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Ferland has been playing hurt for awhile now.
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03-22-2018, 08:46 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: ---
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I hope we don’t trade Brodie. With a new coach in we’d likely see him on his regular side and I’d expect old Brodie to return. I’d be more then okay with packaging Ferland and a prospect+pick for a 1st.
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03-22-2018, 08:51 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SebC
Be that as it may, you still need to be able to replace him with a better player.
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He isn't very good. Good bottom 6 guy who went on a few hot streaks and played with the team's top 2 guys.
If Ferland gets you a 1st round pick, you make that deal 10/10 times.
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03-22-2018, 08:53 PM
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#27
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Strathmore
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Johnny is getting traded.....for two 1st rnd picks and a 2nd.
And yes, I have zero love for the kid.
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03-22-2018, 08:53 PM
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#28
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I don't want to see the Flames trade Brodie. I'd like to see if they can trade Stone, for certain, and definitely trade Ferland. Go after Stastny/JVR/Kane in the offseason to play on the top line, get Thomas Vanek (did you see what he did this year with Vancouver/Columbus? he's been a great presence) or someone similar to play with Bennett and Jankowski, and bring in established NHL players to play on the fourth line -- not scrubs like Tanner freaking Glass.
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03-22-2018, 08:54 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I don't want to see the Flames trade Brodie. I'd like to see if they can trade Stone, for certain, and definitely trade Ferland. Go after Stastny/JVR/Kane in the offseason to play on the top line, get Thomas Vanek (did you see what he did this year with Vancouver/Columbus? he's been a great presence) or someone similar to play with Bennett and Jankowski, and bring in established NHL players to play on the fourth line -- not scrubs like Tanner freaking Glass.
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I really think JVR will be a Flame next year.
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03-22-2018, 08:54 PM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Barthelona
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Basing it on nothing but where he's from, but maybe Hickey grew up as an oil fan and see a good opportunity to play for his favorite team growing up? Their defensive depth is basically non existent, so he might have an easier route to find a full time spot on an NHL team right away.
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03-22-2018, 08:54 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Good news imo
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03-22-2018, 08:57 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I disagree. I think Ferland is a must-trade in the offseason. I am almost 100% confident that his value will never be higher.
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Ferland over an 82 game stretch from Feb 21 2017 onwards had 27G and 17A.
That's not extrapolation it's just raw goal scoring.
He's gone cold at the end of this season like the rest of our roster but anyone who can score 27G in 82GP is not someone you sell when his actual career high will be less than that.
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03-22-2018, 09:00 PM
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#33
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YYC
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Hope it's Hamonic. Just press the undo button and move Brodie back to the right on a pair with Kulak.
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This is a joke right? No way I want Hamonic moved.
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03-22-2018, 09:06 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fire_starter
This is a joke right? No way I want Hamonic moved.
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You're free to your opinion, but I have not seen Hamonic bring anything that has helped us win games. We had more success last year with a turnstile in Dennis Wideman because as slow and confused as he was wont to be he actually had offensive ability and was no worse a penalty killer.
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03-22-2018, 09:10 PM
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#35
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
You're free to your opinion, but I have not seen Hamonic bring anything that has helped us win games. We had more success last year with a turnstile in Dennis Wideman because as slow and confused as he was wont to be he actually had offensive ability and was no worse a penalty killer.
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If a good deal exists to trade Hamonic for a solid scoring winger, I'd definitely support it given our excess depth on the backend. He's our 3rd best D and very one dimensional; a dimension he wasn't even that great at this year. Having said that, I think any comparisons to Wideman are a bit extreme...I don't think Hamonic is in danger of being out of the league next year due to no one wanting him.
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03-22-2018, 09:15 PM
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#36
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GranteedEV
You're free to your opinion, but I have not seen Hamonic bring anything that has helped us win games. We had more success last year with a turnstile in Dennis Wideman because as slow and confused as he was wont to be he actually had offensive ability and was no worse a penalty killer.
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Hamonic is a stay at home defenseman. He's not going to be putting up goals on a daily basis when that isn't his main job. He's the least of our problems.
And when your partner is TJ freaking Brodie most nights your obviously going to have a rough time.
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03-22-2018, 09:18 PM
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#37
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: YYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
If a good deal exists to trade Hamonic for a solid scoring winger, I'd definitely support it given our excess depth on the backend. He's our 3rd best D and very one dimensional; a dimension he wasn't even that great at this year. Having said that, I think any comparisons to Wideman are a bit extreme...I don't think Hamonic is in danger of being out of the league next year due to no one wanting him.
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You mean just like Hamilton is one dimensional? Guy can score but is butter soft in his own end. I wouldn't say he's any better defending then Hamonic.
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03-22-2018, 09:21 PM
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#38
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fire_starter
You mean just like Hamilton is one dimensional? Guy can score but is butter soft in his own end. I wouldn't say he's any better defending then Hamonic.
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If I had to pick one, I'd take Hamilton over Hamonic any day...
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03-22-2018, 09:23 PM
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#39
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I think, on defense, you definitely keep Giordano and Hamilton. I'd actually venture that the Flames could stand to add a defenseman that plays the left side... if they trade Brodie, their LHD depth starts to look awfully thin: Giordano, Kulak, and then... Kylington? Yikes.
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03-22-2018, 09:24 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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I'll guess Brodie for top 6 forward and Bennett for late 1st round pick.
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