2021/2022 English Premier League

[Locke]

Originally Posted by The Big Chill

So Champions league is still with DAZN for a couple more seasons? What a pain in the ass that is. I liked the value of having the PL, CL, and NFL, but that takes a massive hit now. I love the CL, but I’m always working when the games are on.

Yeah...this is nuts. I havent looked into just subscribing to something like a team-based product to just watch Liverpool matches.

That would be okay, but I do like watching other matches and other teams but I'm not going to subscribe to a half-dozen different services for that.

[Locke]

Everton shortlist appears to be Rooney or Martinez. Then again, Nuno is also free as I understand.

Thats a bit of a Rogue's Gallery.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Usual ignorant tripe.
As usual take the time to familiarize yourself with the rules before posting.

LOL! Forfeit! Points deduction! Automatic relegation!

Give us a laugh and explain on what grounds exactly they should be penalized.


Within the rules.

They shouldn't be penalized, I dont even blame then for requesting it after the shenanigans liverpool pulled on them a week earlier, but the league rule needs to be changed or interpreted differently going forward.

They had 1 covid case at the time of the request, they have a reserves and academy full of players. As was pointed out they loaned two players in the week prior to the game.

The premier league wouldnt move spurs game vs leicester the 3rd week of december, which would have allowed them to play Rennes in their final conference league group game, So the premier league effectively limited 1 of their own clubs from europe, and then was willing to move a game weeks later because arsenal loaned out some players and couldnt have a few academy players on the bench. It's a joke

La Liga has the rule of only 5 senior players being needed if academy players are also available and the clubs get on with it.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

They shouldn't be penalized, I dont even blame then for requesting it after the shenanigans liverpool pulled on them a week earlier, but the league rule needs to be changed or interpreted differently going forward.

They had 1 covid case at the time of the request, they have a reserves and academy full of players. As was pointed out they loaned two players in the week prior to the game.

The premier league wouldnt move spurs game vs leicester the 3rd week of december, which would have allowed them to play Rennes in their final conference league group game, So the premier league effectively limited 1 of their own clubs from europe, and then was willing to move a game weeks later because arsenal loaned out some players and couldnt have a few academy players on the bench. It's a joke

La Liga has the rule of only 5 senior players being needed if academy players are also available and the clubs get on with it.

The reason they should be penalized is because it’s complete mismanagement, and it’s their doing. It’s pathetic that they even requested a postponement, but that never should’ve been granted. It should’ve been a clear option:

A) play the game
B) forfeit and face a points deduction

They had 20 players for Thursday and suddenly they can’t find 13? That’s a lie. Are they suggesting that if Xhaka doesn’t get suspended they could’ve played? First of all, that’s part of the game that’s club their size could handle, and second, they shouldn’t factor in suspensions at all.

Leeds played yesterday, and had 7 debutants. You didn’t see them crying for a postponement. Oh, and they won. But these guys couldn’t play the squad they wanted due to things other than Covid. That’s their decision, and they should have consequences for that.

And what about the paying fans? People have laid out money, made all kinds of arrangements to be there, and the circumstances aren’t to their liking, so the games off? I have no idea why that’s OK. Obviously if they fail to play it’s a forfeit, and obviously they need a penalty to make sure this kind of thing isn’t happening.

Lastly, Liverpool apparently had a pile of positive tests. I don’t agree with that either, because they weren’t positive, but two wrongs don’t make a right and that sort of thing.

Here’s what really happened. Arsenal were scared. They we’re going to get beaten and looked for a loophole. We tested players on Wednesday to have our players ready, and made arrangements for the game. But they had one guy with Covid. Completely and utterly pathetic for a professional organization.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Locke

Everton shortlist appears to be Rooney or Martinez. Then again, Nuno is also free as I understand.

Thats a bit of a Rogue's Gallery.

What about Ole? Lol

[Slava]

Oh, and apparently someone had a miraculous recovery for Arsenal yesterday. They sent Mari out on loan today, so clearly they’re not concerned about the LC against Liverpool this week. Or…it was a scam and they could’ve fielded a squad.

[Barnet Flame]

Wow!

Take a breath and let it go.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Barnet Flame

Wow!

Take a breath and let it go.

Haha, yeah I definitely find this more irritating than I should!

[cam_wmh]

Originally Posted by Bagor

Derby now off bottom and 9 points from safety.

Question is does Rooney jump ship for the Everton job..

He’s said he’s dedicated to seeing it through, when they were going through bankruptcy. I wanna say he holds his word.

If he keeps them up, shows that loyalty, he’ll be enshrined.

[Cappy]

Not sure Arsenal should get punished as the league allowed it. But the leagues handling of it was farcical.

[devo22]

Arsenal is exploiting the rules that the league set up, and you can blame them for that if you want. But to me, the problem is not that Arsenal was cheeky enough to try, it's that the league has opened the door for that ####. They have no one to blame but themselves, they couldn't have handled this any worse.

[Matty81]

Derby situation is crazy. I know everyone likes the story, but 40 mil in debt, 40 mil in pending lawsuits, no owner and a huge payroll for the championship and Rooney has been trying to add new players this window?

How have they not been forced to sell players amd slash wages ro reduce their debt and get back onside of FFP rules. They have loads of marketable assets too and could easily quickly raise 20 mil or so and slash payroll. Rooney deserves kudos for winning some games but it's not like he's managing a conference team, that's one of the best rosters in the championship that is continuing to overspend even in administration.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by Slava

Haha, yeah I definitely find this more irritating than I should!

FWIW - I don’t know the rules, nor do I care. I can only surmise that Arsenal made a request within the framework and that the request was granted because it fell within that framework.

My view is that it seems spurious (pun genuinely not intended) that as there was only one (possibly two) player out with Covid, that the spirit of any change in rules implemented to manage football during the pandemic wasn’t followed.

I’m only guessing - I don’t know.

As for suspensions - that shouldn’t enter into the equation. My understanding is that it didn’t although as a Spurs man, you should be grateful that you may face an Arsenal team with Xhaka in it.

TL;DR - I think the rules allowing the postponement must be opaque, Arsenal should’ve fulfilled had to fulfil the fixture using members of the youth team. I also don’t think Arsenal should face any sanction unless the request wasn’t granted and they just didn’t turn up.

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by Matty81

Derby situation is crazy. I know everyone likes the story, but 40 mil in debt, 40 mil in pending lawsuits, no owner and a huge payroll for the championship and Rooney has been trying to add new players this window?

How have they not been forced to sell players amd slash wages ro reduce their debt and get back onside of FFP rules. They have loads of marketable assets too and could easily quickly raise 20 mil or so and slash payroll. Rooney deserves kudos for winning some games but it's not like he's managing a conference team, that's one of the best rosters in the championship that is continuing to overspend even in administration.

Jason Knight has been linked with Manchester City, Newcastle, Burnley, and Leeds. Sounds like he's likely going to Leeds for £8 million.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Top marking on this corner, well done from Chelsea.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1483549933189926912

[Locke]

Way to go Albion!

Thats a beauty of a header.

[cheevers]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Top marking on this corner, well done from Chelsea.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1483549933189926912

Dress like Norwich, play like Norwich.

[DeanOMac]

"FA looking into yellow card shown to Arsenal player over suspicious betting patterns"

https://theathletic.com/3079669/2022...ting-patterns/

The article is behind a paywall, but I am guessing this could result in a multi-year ban for the player, if proven out.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Prop bet manipulation seems so much easier to pull off than pure match fixing. Wouldn't be surprised if it is happening in every sport.

[J epworth]

How many goals would Man U have conceded this season if it wasn’t for De Gea?