2015/2016 Trade Speculation and Rumors v2

[saillias]

Originally Posted by polak

No tv or internet at work?

One of the silver linings with this crash is that management at my work has pretty much conceded that the markets are way too depressing to have on the TV's 24/7 so we can actually switch it to sports now.

sure but the problem of being at work is that at any given time your boss may come by or a meeting might come up and you have to unglue your eyes from your monitor. booking the day off removes those trivial annoyances

[Demetric]

for those that missed it: the Kris Russell Argument - Link

It is truly gold

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

For a lot of people, Russell fails the eye test just as much as the analytics test.

He's been worse this year than last. Personally I think he's been playing through injuries all season and I'm guessing if you asked Hartley that would be the case.

But it seems as if some people have erased last season from their minds. Russell made Wideman look like a competent defenseman last year. How good was he when Gio went down and everyone thought we had no chance at the playoffs? How good was he in the first round? How many of you have conveniently forgotten that? Seems like a lot of you have. Too many.

Russell isn't a top 4 d-man IMO. He's a perfect #5 who Hartley overuses because we didn't have a better option. That kind of depth defensemen will still be valued highly at the deadline and at UFA. If guys like Andrew MacDonald and Matt Carle get 5 million then Russell is comparable to guys like that. If guys like Roman Polak get you two 2nds then Russell is comparable to that.

He's still underrated by many here.

[Robo]

Originally Posted by Demetric

for those that missed it: the Kris Russell Argument - Link

It is truly gold

"Stop saying those people" haha that had me laughing pretty good was lou drunk?

[Demetric]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

He's been worse this year than last. Personally I think he's been playing through injuries all season and I'm guessing if you asked Hartley that would be the case.

But it seems as if some people have erased last season from their minds. Russell made Wideman look like a competent defenseman last year. How good was he when Gio went down and everyone thought we had no chance at the playoffs? How good was he in the first round? How many of you have conveniently forgotten that? Seems like a lot of you have. Too many.

Russell isn't a top 4 d-man IMO. He's a perfect #5 who Hartley overuses because we didn't have a better option. That kind of depth defensemen will still be valued highly at the deadline and at UFA. If guys like Andrew MacDonald and Matt Carle get 5 million then Russell is comparable to guys like that. If guys like Roman Polak get you two 2nds then Russell is comparable to that.

He's still underrated by many here.

agreed.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Demetric

for those that missed it: the Kris Russell Argument - Link

It is truly gold

Man Lou sounds like that guy who sticks his fingers in his ears saying I can't hear you.

That was a cringe worthy segment to listen to.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Demetric

for those that missed it: the Kris Russell Argument - Link

It is truly gold

lol classic...people like yourself

I think the truth on Russell is somewhere in the middle, sure he is playing 24 mins a night...team is also in the basement

[nightfx]

Yeah Lou is being more than a little bit biased.

[kehatch]

I like Lou a lot. But he gets to know the guys personally and sometimes he gets so attached to a player he loses all objectivity.

There is no question that Russell is a soldier with a lot of heart. The dude will go through the wall for his team. He is also a decent enough depth defender and a great guy to have on the PK.

But I prefer a defender who gets the puck out of our zone over one who collapses the net. If my defender is going to collapse to the net I want the big mean variety that will clear the crease. And if I am paying more then 3 million for a D I want him to contribute at both ends of the ice.

[Badgers Nose]

That segment was a grade 12 couple fight.

Pat: "What do you think about people who say Russell is playing over his head."

Lou: "So I don't have ears then? So I hate everyone then? This conversation is over. I respect everyone, but I know more than you."

[dammage79]

Kind of done with Steinberg. "How dare you be blindly passionate about one player without looking at everything including the Advanced stats!".

Also, that argument is daily here on CP. So here we all are in grade twelve.

"Next on DeGrassi CP"

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

I respect everyone, but I know more than you."

I didn't listen to it yet, but I can completely imagine Loubo saying that.

IIIIIYE know mur than yewwwww

[nik-]

That was probably one of the most embarrassing thing I've heard on 960 and there's been some pretty embarrassing stuff.

God our station sucks.

I did laugh when Loubardias said he knew what Pat was saying and that he didn't keep repeating it 19 times. Sorry Lou, rehashing an opinion over and over and over and over and over is Pats whole method.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Kind of done with Steinberg. "How dare you be blindly passionate about one player without looking at everything including the Advanced stats!".

Also, that argument is daily here on CP. So here we all are in grade twelve.

"Next on DeGrassi CP"

Folks here are calmer and actually make a point rather than arguing over the right to make a point. I don't see too many people raising their voices here.

They literally said nothing in that segment.

[kehatch]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Kind of done with Steinberg. "How dare you be blindly passionate about one player without looking at everything including the Advanced stats!".

Also, that argument is daily here on CP. So here we all are in grade twelve.

"Next on DeGrassi CP"

Lou is blindly passionate about Russell. Key word is blindly. Personally I can drive north to hear blind homerisms. I don't need it on my radio.

[dino7c]

Lou should talk some teams into giving up a first for him

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by polak

No tv or internet at work?

One of the silver linings with this crash is that management at my work has pretty much conceded that the markets are way too depressing to have on the TV's 24/7 so we can actually switch it to sports now.

If my job takes me to the field which it typically does I am not able to listen or watch. If the deadline was Tuesday-Thursday I would work but with it being a Monday I took it off.

[MarkGio]

Originally Posted by Demetric

for those that missed it: the Kris Russell Argument - Link

It is truly gold

Well that was awkward.

It wasn't aggressive enough where the two guys are beating each other up, which is now in the realm of highly entertaining, but it was aggressive enough where you thought somebody was going to up and leave or cry about it.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by polak

No tv or internet at work?

One of the silver linings with this crash is that management at my work has pretty much conceded that the markets are way too depressing to have on the TV's 24/7 so we can actually switch it to sports now.

Originally Posted by dammage79

Kind of done with Steinberg. "How dare you be blindly passionate about one player without looking at everything including the Advanced stats!".

Also, that argument is daily here on CP. So here we all are in grade twelve.

"Next on DeGrassi CP"

I am not a fan of Pt and his irritating voice but admit the guy is a hard worker. He was simply trying to bring up the fact that there is a large population who do not feel the same way about Russell that Loubo and the Flames do.

Personally I love the intangibles Russell brings and would welcome him back (in the summer) to a 3 year $3.5M deal. If he wants 5 years and $5.5M then he can get that elsewhere

[MarkGio]

I wish Lou would've went Sam Jackson and said "say what again mother ####er". "Does Kris Wallace look like a b###h?!"