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03-20-2018, 05:45 AM
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Lifetime Suspension
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You get rid of all of the coaching staff and let the new HC hire his own staff. You dont want no GlueGun stink remaining in the organization.
Jordan Sigalet seems to not have had good results over the years. Even if he didnt have GlueGun stink, its time to go in a different direction here.
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Originally Posted by SeanCharles
Given the disappointment surrounding this years version of the Calgary Flames all one can do now is look forward to next season and the offseason moves that will undoubtably result from this years failures.
The name of the game is self explanatory. I'm wondering what everyone thinks, here is mine:
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - indifferent
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - indifferent
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - indifferent
GM: Brad Treliving - keep
For ease I left out the video coach and various management roles.
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03-20-2018, 05:50 AM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Sweden
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That RW depth is... terrifying. It needs to be completely revamped.
CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - let walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep; untouchable
25 Nick Shore - re-sign
18 Matt Stajan - let walk
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - keep
79 Micheal Ferland - keep
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep; untouchable
15 Tanner Glass - let walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep; untouchable
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - buyout
67 Michael Frolik - keep
21 Garnet Hathaway - indifferent / AHL
20 Curtis Lazar - indifferent / AHL
8 Chris Stewart - let walk
10 Kris Versteeg - let walk
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - let walk
7 T.J. Brodie - trade
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep; untouchable
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - trade
EVERYTHING depends on how Andersson, Valimaki, Fox and Kylington turn out. BT needs to gamble here and assume one of them is going to step up so he can trade Stone or Brodie + prospect for scoring help.
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03-20-2018, 05:56 AM
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Help, save, whatever.
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Originally Posted by Dajazz
That RW depth is... terrifying.
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Ha-ha I just read this and thought the same thing. Must be the worst RW depth in the league.
Maybe instead of trading for a 4th defenseman Trevling should have got a RW.
I think I know why Gulutzan plays Brouwer on the PP. What other options does he have?
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03-20-2018, 05:58 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Need to find a coach/coaches who knows how to use Brodie and his breakout.
You try to get something for Bennett, he has zero finish which hurts the team.
Brouwer buy-out for sure.
I would suggest trying to deal one of if not both of Hamilton/Hamonic as they are too passive - contributing to the stink. And could actually help to do a in-flight rebuild.
Stajan, Lazar and Stewart all plugs. Bye.
GG and Cameron will go regardless.
Smith is old and should go but who do we replace him with? Néeds someone to split time with.
Treliving should probably go because he built a very emotionless club.
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03-20-2018, 06:21 AM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanCharles
Given the disappointment surrounding this years version of the Calgary Flames all one can do now is look forward to next season and the offseason moves that will undoubtably result from this years failures..
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I agree with your list completely
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03-20-2018, 06:27 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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We're just four lines of right wingers away from contention!
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03-20-2018, 06:40 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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If Bennett still holds any shred of real value, move him for it.
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03-20-2018, 07:02 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Amsterdam
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Good list, i keep Brodie and move him down to the 3rd pairing to see what he can do under a different coach who activates the D more. I also trade Frolik. Does Frolik and Stone get you a first rounder?
Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuck
Bennet-Backlund- xxxx
Dube-Janko-Ferland
xxx-Lazar-Hathaway
Gio-Hamilton
Kulak-Hamonic
Brodie-Andersson
with the hope Valamaki replaces Kulak in that number 4 role and pushes the depth down.
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03-20-2018, 07:09 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sherwood Park, AB
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Indifferent.
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03-20-2018, 07:10 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Keep everyone except Brouwer, Stone, Hamonic, Stajan and Hathaway. Team doesn't need a shakeup it needs a coach. Only thing that needs changing is having a partner for Brodie. An actual partner, who meshes with him. It's not that hard when you stop trying to fill checkboxes like "right shot" and "defensive" and find someone who can just play at both ends.
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03-20-2018, 07:18 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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This team can't or won't get it done. New coaching staff will help but the team just isn't good enough.
CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - let walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep; untouchable
25 Nick Shore - re-sign
18 Matt Stajan - let walk
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - if there's a market, trade him.
79 Micheal Ferland - I'd be open to trading him just because I think his value is high
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep; untouchable
15 Tanner Glass - let walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep; untouchable
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - buyout
67 Michael Frolik - trade
21 Garnet Hathaway - indifferent
20 Curtis Lazar - Keep: he's shown he's a good bottom 6 guy
8 Chris Stewart - let walk
10 Kris Versteeg - let walk
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - let walk
7 T.J. Brodie - trade
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep; untouchable
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - trade
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - keep
41 Mike Smith - keep
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - fire
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - depends on how he handles things. If changes aren't made very soon, I'd consider letting him go.
I would be open to trading just about anyone on the team, Bennett and Ferland I would like to keep but if a team is willing to give a piece that will help now, you have to consider trading them. As for D, I think you have to look at moving Brodie but only if its for a good return. You don't want to just make trades for the sake of getting rid of a player (except maybe Brouwer) so there would have to be real value coming back in any deal.
The entire coaching staff needs to go. You don't want to bring in a good coach and say they're stuck with the crap staff the team has. If/when a new coach is brought in, they should have the option of having whoever they want for assistants.
If BT doesn't see the need for changes and at least get rid of the coaching staff asap then I think you strongly consider firing him.
Burke needs to go.
If ownership doesn't approve any moves, the team has to go.
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03-20-2018, 07:26 AM
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Franchise Player
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If you can pull a Griffin Reinhart, move Bennett to some stupid team who still think he has high value and potential. Otherwise might as well keep him and hope for the best.
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03-20-2018, 07:33 AM
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Franchise Player
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Keep: Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, Giordano, Hamilton, hamonic, Bennett, Jankowski, Lazar, Frolik, Backlund (shoulda moved him in my opinion)
Move/let walk: Brodie, stone (gotta listen on offers), Stajan, Brouwer, Versteeg, Ferland (he doesn't know how to play as an effective crash and banger to augment the cold streaks),
Gaudreau - Monahan - tkatchuk/Bennett
Bennett/tkatchuk - a - b
c - Backlund - frolik
Lazar - Jankowski - d
Giordano - Hamilton
x - hamonic
y - stone
Smith
Rittich
a = need a true offensive 2nd line center thru trade or ufa (Ror, Stastny, etc)
b = if you can hit a homerun on a, perhaps this is less crucial and can be filled with Ferland
c = filled with a kid with 2way play (Dube, klimchuk, foo, mangiapane)
d = speed grit ufa or just sign Hathaway, or one of the options listed for c
x, y = 1 of Andersson, kylington, fox, and a cheap depth ufa that are always out there if you aren't comfortable with a rookie in the top4
I really think the gap between the flames being a playoff team VS bubble garbage is getting a true 2nd line and pushing backlund/Frolik down creating one of the best 2-way 3rd lines in the league.
Naturally, get the coaching staff out of here, and if the gm is tied to the coaches then get rid of him too.
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03-20-2018, 07:33 AM
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Franchise Player
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Untouchable - Johnny hockey , tkachuk ,
Keep- Monohan , Hamilton , hamonic
The rest can be traded at the right price. I'm not saying trade all the rest, but need to keep as many options open as possible.
Brouwer can be bought out and no more Stajan.
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03-20-2018, 07:41 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund - keep
46 Marek Hrivik - walk
77 Mark Jankowski - re-sign
23 Sean Monahan - keep; untouchable
25 Nick Shore - re-sign
18 Matt Stajan - walk
LEFT WINGS
93 Sam Bennett - keep
79 Micheal Ferland - trade
13 Johnny Gaudreau - keep; untouchable
15 Tanner Glass - walk
19 Matthew Tkachuk - keep; untouchable
RIGHT WINGS
36 Troy Brouwer - buyout
67 Michael Frolik - keep
21 Garnet Hathaway - walk
20 Curtis Lazar - keep
8 Chris Stewart -walk
10 Kris Versteeg -walk
DEFENSE
44 Matt Bartkowski - walk
7 T.J. Brodie - trade
5 Mark Giordano - keep
27 Dougie Hamilton - keep; untouchable
24 Travis Hamonic - keep
61 Brett Kulak - keep
26 Michael Stone - trade
GOALIES
33 David Rittich - keep
41 Mike Smith - keep
Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - Keep but shuffle to a new role in the organization
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - Keep for now - If he stays the course and doesn't make drastic changes this changes to Fire.
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03-20-2018, 07:42 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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These are the players I would keep. Bennett, Ferland, Brodie, Frolik, Stone I would trade away. Brouwer bought out.
CENTRES
11 Mikael Backlund
77 Mark Jankowski
23 Sean Monahan
LEFT WINGS
13 Johnny Gaudreau
19 Matthew Tkachuk
RIGHT WINGS
20 Curtis Lazar
DEFENSE
5 Mark Giordano
27 Dougie Hamilton
24 Travis Hamonic
61 Brett Kulak
GOALIES
33 David Rittich
41 Mike Smith
Coaching Staff All fired
GM: Brad Treliving - keep
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03-20-2018, 07:47 AM
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Franchise Player
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Why do so many people want to trade Frolik? He's our only good RWer. He's on a good contract. He's a good player.
Complete misevaluation.
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03-20-2018, 07:53 AM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
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Why do so many people want to trade Frolik? He's our only good RWer. He's on a good contract. He's a good player.
Complete misevaluation.
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Agreed.
For a team starved for offence, he's better slotted on the 3rd line though.
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03-20-2018, 08:00 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sunny California
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Head Coach: Glen Gulutzan - fire
Ass. Coach: Dave Cameron - fire
Ass. Coach: Paul Jerrard - fire
Ass. Coach: Martin Gelinas - fire
Goal Coach: Jordan Sigalet - fire
GM: Brad Treliving - fire
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