2020/2021 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[getbak]

Originally Posted by atb

Pretty sure that the surgery that there is disagreement. I believe this MMA Fighter, https://www.instagram.com/funkmastermma/, had the same surgery done in the middle of April. Seems to be back training pretty hard as of the past few days.

Yeah, sorry, I knew there's disagreement on it, but I wasn't sure who was on which side.

Does Eichel want the surgery and the Sabres want him to go with traditional rehab, or vice versa?

Presumably, any team that would be looking to acquire him would also be in favour of doing what he wants.

[atb]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yeah, sorry, I knew there's disagreement on it, but I wasn't sure who was on which side.

Does Eichel want the surgery and the Sabres want him to go with traditional rehab, or vice versa?

Presumably, any team that would be looking to acquire him would also be in favour of doing what he wants.

From what Friedman has reported, Eichel wants to do this surgery and the Sabres medical staff aren't onboard. Yeah, likely any team acquiring him would need to be ok with Eichel having the surgery.

[GS Skier]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yeah, sorry, I knew there's disagreement on it, but I wasn't sure who was on which side.

Does Eichel want the surgery and the Sabres want him to go with traditional rehab, or vice versa?

Presumably, any team that would be looking to acquire him would also be in favour of doing what he wants.

Buffalo does NOT want him to have the surgery.

[camm13]

Eh. He really didn't hold anything at the blue line this season. He was brutal on the PP for that reason, and when he did try to shoot, stick always snapped. He's better of at the point 3/4 D man, PK time.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by getbak

Yeah, sorry, I knew there's disagreement on it, but I wasn't sure who was on which side.

Does Eichel want the surgery and the Sabres want him to go with traditional rehab, or vice versa?

Presumably, any team that would be looking to acquire him would also be in favour of doing what he wants.

Yeah, the Sabres doctors advised against the surgery after Eichel didn't like their suggestion of rest and rehab and went and got a second opinion.

I don't blame either side for digging in on it either.

It is a huge red flag for any acquiring team though.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Yeah, the Sabres doctors advised against the surgery after Eichel didn't like their suggestion of rest and rehab and went and got a second opinion.

I don't blame either side for digging in on it either.

It is a huge red flag for any acquiring team though.

I’m not sure how he can be traded until he’s proven healthy. The acquiring team is just taking too much of a risk.


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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I’m not sure how he can be traded until he’s proven healthy. The acquiring team is just taking too much of a risk.


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If a trade is going to take place, the acquiring team would be allowed full access to examine and talk with the player

[bluejays]

Eichel has his own long term interest at heart more than the Sabres. To me it’s end of story with that point. These aren’t street surgeons. If the surgeons he’s consulting are saying he’ll be fine, with even higher contact UFC fighters having this, I doubt he’s truly risking his well being by doing this. Just seems like two philosophies and either won’t budge. I tend to blame the Sabres as they don’t seem to be a very understanding organization at the ownership level. So what if he takes an extra few months to recover? But dig your heals in and this situation happens.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

If a trade is going to take place, the acquiring team would be allowed full access to examine and talk with the player

Of course, but it sounds like with differing opinions etc. on the course of treatment he should take, looking at the records of what he has isn’t going to give the acquiring team 100% confidence.


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[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Of course, but it sounds like with differing opinions etc. on the course of treatment he should take, looking at the records of what he has isn’t going to give the acquiring team 100% confidence.


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They would have their own doctors examine him and the procedure.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

They would have their own doctors examine him and the procedure.

Yes, but my point is that it appears there is a lot of conflicting opinions and uncertainty.

I wouldn’t be shocked if the best opinion you might end up with is “yeah, that might work “.


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[dammage79]

The surgery choice is kind of a no trade clause in itself.

It's already been reported teams (Rangers and Kings) have pulled out because they side with the Sabers.

I wonder what the divide is in the league. Like is it a 50/50 split? 70/30 for the Sabers side?

It's going to be an interesting trade market for Eichel.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by dammage79

The surgery choice is kind of a no trade clause in itself.

It's already been reported teams (Rangers and Kings) have pulled out because they side with the Sabers.

I wonder what the divide is in the league. Like is it a 50/50 split? 70/30 for the Sabers side?

It's going to be an interesting trade market for Eichel.

I suspect any team that’s currently rebuilding might put the brakes on acquiring Jack Eichel. Would be a devastating franchise move to suck for a few years, sell off assets, then add future pieces only to give them away for a guy who has to retire next season because doctor’s have advised him not to play the sport ever again.

The Flames on the other hand are in a unique situation. We can gamble because we’ve been bleeding chips for so long that we’ve basically reached “all in” territory. So if we acquire Eichel and it blows up in our face, we rebuild. If we don’t get Eichel, we probably should rebuild anyway. Fans are unlikely to revolt in either situation, so we’re kind of in a good spot to go hard after Jack Eichel.

In the end, the more teams that drop out of the race, the better our chances. Should be a fun offseason.

[chummer]

Man if all this is true why would any team trade for Eichel?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by atb

From what Friedman has reported, Eichel wants to do this surgery and the Sabres medical staff aren't onboard. Yeah, likely any team acquiring him would need to be ok with Eichel having the surgery.

And then be OK having him out of action to start the season, and potentially for quite a while. Other players that have had back and neck surgeries in the offseason go on to miss 40+ games and aren't 100% until the next season.

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by chummer

Man if all this is true why would any team trade for Eichel?

Because GM’s are desperate desperate fools.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

And then be OK having him out of action to start the season, and potentially for quite a while. Other players that have had back and neck surgeries in the offseason go on to miss 40+ games and aren't 100% until the next season.

Eichel would be ready to go at the start of the season from the sounds of it. This from a doctor interviewed by The Athletic

One surgical option is to replace the disk with an artificial one. This is a quick and simple procedure with a recovery time of 2-3 months. Rehabbing and delaying surgery risks a more serious injury that could lead to fusion surgery. That would come with more long-term complications and a longer recovery time. Even if Eichel’s injury doesn’t get worse next season, it could still bother him enough that it hurts his performance

[Samonadreau]

I would still trade for him. Done with perpetual mediocrity.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by TOfan

Eichel would be ready to go at the start of the season from the sounds of it. This from a doctor interviewed by The Athletic

One surgical option is to replace the disk with an artificial one. This is a quick and simple procedure with a recovery time of 2-3 months. Rehabbing and delaying surgery risks a more serious injury that could lead to fusion surgery. That would come with more long-term complications and a longer recovery time. Even if Eichel’s injury doesn’t get worse next season, it could still bother him enough that it hurts his performance

Peyton Manning had a fusion surgery.

He can’t feel his fingertips anymore.

If the experimental surgery Avoids a fusion one, I can see why Eichel wants it and I don’t see why the Sabres don’t.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Peyton Manning had a fusion surgery.

He can’t feel his fingertips anymore.

If the experimental surgery Avoids a fusion one, I can see why Eichel wants it and I don’t see why the Sabres don’t.

Yep. It goes to show that player and team are done with each other. Sabres can't even hold even long enough to make a trade with another team. Oilers east.