[PGT] Flames beat Pens! End Losing Streak!

[CroFlames]

MOD EDIT: Inappropriate.

[direwolf]

Love how Smith also gives him a shove at the end there.

[OutToLunch]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

One request for Benny, grow that stache back please.

Yes, in a LONG playoff run.

[minnow]

The stach is back, or, almost back.

[TheScorpion]

Hanifin is a little inconsistent at times, but he's definitely a top-4 guy right now. So impressive for his age. I wouldn't worry about him at all.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Never knew Bieksa was a penguin.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by zamler

NSFW!

It's so long! It just keeps going and going!

[Sutter4Mayor]

[WhiteTiger]

Love coming home from work to see a W! Way to go, Flames!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by minnow

The stach is back, or, almost back.

He might now be going for a 1989 grizzled Lanny look.

[wired]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

Secondary scoring and only one softie against Smith. I’ll take it. Wouldn’t have been this close without some healthy assists to the refs. Also, paging Matthew Tkachuk.

Tkachuck has been invisible lately, actually hurting the team with his turnovers. Put Bennet on the 2nd line and Matty on the 3rd for a game or two.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by wired

Tkachuck has been invisible lately, actually hurting the team with his turnovers. Put Bennet on the 2nd line and Matty on the 3rd for a game or two.

How did people think he looked yesterday?

I thought he was a little better than he has been for a few games, but still not close to the level he was playing at in November and December.

[imeubu]

Sorry to overstate and sound shrill... don't know how else to send up a flare... this guy is super talented. So aware... so precise... so skilled.

This level of raw talent is extremely rare. I'm not saying "at all costs" but with this level of talent I sure hope the Flames are working very hard at helping him tame whatever demons (ego, locker room fit, character) that they may see as "not Flame material" and keep this guy. Finishing school, 12 steps whatever it takes. There has to be a way to keep him.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by imeubu

Sorry to overstate and sound shrill... don't know how else to send up a flare... this guy is super talented. So aware... so precise... so skilled.

This level of raw talent is extremely rare. I'm not saying "at all costs" but with this level of talent I sure hope the Flames are working very hard at helping him tame whatever demons (ego, locker room fit, character) that they may see as "not Flame material" and keep this guy. Finishing school, 12 steps whatever it takes. There has to be a way to keep him.

What on earth are you talking about?

[imeubu]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

What on earth are you talking about?

Sorry. Don't know if you're saying you disagree or that you don't understand what I'm saying. I'll go with the latter.

Kylington is "really talented". Beyond... way beyond... adequate for the NHL.
So I'm assuming this "raw talent" is being offset by some other criteria (such as team fit, personality, whatever). Otherwise he would be getting more opportunity.

I of course have no idea about specfics and other than what I've heard via hearsay and observed directly (e.g. Smith and he seem at odds... two big egos colliding perhaps).

I'd just hate to see Kylington playing somewhere else 5 years from now. I'm predicting (based solely on his talent... and absent injury and personal issues) that he is going to be that good.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by imeubu

Sorry. Don't know if you're saying you disagree or that you don't understand what I'm saying. I'll go with the latter.

Kylington is "really talented". Beyond... way beyond... adequate for the NHL.
So I'm assuming this "raw talent" is being offset by some other criteria (such as team fit, personality, whatever). Otherwise he would be getting more opportunity.

I of course have no idea about specfics and other than what I've heard via hearsay and observed directly (e.g. Smith and he seem at odds... two big egos colliding perhaps).

I'd just hate to see Kylington playing somewhere else 5 years from now. I'm predicting (based solely on his talent... and absent injury and personal issues) that he is going to be that good.

He's still a young guy and the organization has been taking it's time with him, so they're easing him into NHL hockey.
The flames have given him plenty of opportunity, but there are 4 top 4 players ahead of him.

I haven't heard of any off-ice problems with him, but this is how terrible rumors start.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by imeubu

...Kylington is "really talented". Beyond... way beyond... adequate for the NHL.

So I'm assuming this "raw talent" is being offset by some other criteria (such as team fit, personality, whatever). Otherwise he would be getting more opportunity.

He is 21-year-old rookie defenseman and he is playing for the #2 team in the entire League. Your expectations are too high.

I of course have no idea about specfics and other than what I've heard via hearsay and observed directly (e.g. Smith and he seem at odds... two big egos colliding perhaps).

This is hearsay and anecdotal. It’s worthless. George Johnson wrote a feature on Kylington a couple weeks ago, and it paints a picture of a very well grounded young man and an organisation which values him immensely.

https://www.nhl.com/flames/fans/flam...priceoffreedom
If you have not already read it, you should. There is nothing else to see here.


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[imeubu]

Or not.

If everyone agrees no one is making waves. I've watched good talent get mismanaged a lot... there is never anything so good that mismanagement can't screw it up every time.

As for "rumors" I'm saying for sure... no question... there have been many "observations" made over the past couple of years. To me that may very well signal there are real "concerns" (strong personality, cockiness, coach-ability, character and work ethic). faAll very common for younger players, none of which should be facilitated the NHL level. That's a given.

Kent Nielson for example was someone who had enormous talent and off-setting issues.

It's obvious Kylington is "young" and it is obvious that "the organization is taking it's time".

I've waited for while now and have not seen anyone comment.

What I do not agree with specifically is that he has been given "plenty of opportunity". That is precisely my point. He is an ideal player for special teams. I'm saying that I personally am convinced he has more skill (not even close) than others who are getting all that ice time as well as being extra shifted.

So my question is (rhetorical I'm not necessarily arguing here) WTH? My spidy-senses tell me it is most likely a "fit" issue about things other than on-ice talent.

[Mr.Coffee]

I think you’re substantially overstating Kylington’s talent (even though it is good he isn’t Nik Lidstrom or anything) and therefore interpreting his usage as some other issue at play when in fact, he kinda isn’t really as good as you think he is- especially defensively where he makes the odd mistake.

[Cali Panthers Fan]