2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Flames_F.T.W]

Since we're discussing pipe dreams like Tavares, here's another to mull over:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...erik-karlsson/

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W

Since we're discussing pipe dreams like Tavares, here's another to mull over:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...erik-karlsson/

No, the acquisition cost would be too high. Double no because it's Francis.

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

The Penguins resigned Malkin to a higher cap hit than Crosby. Adding 2 more cups I'm sure Sid doesn't care

Also I'm sure Monahan and Gaudreau will get their pay days too. If you can add a Tavares who basically carries 2 average players too ppg totals you add that guy if possible. Odds are he doesn't choose Calgary anyways

Yes these are all correct and fair points. But it's not about hurting someone's feelings because someone makes more then them. It's about having enough money to sign Ferland, Bennet and Matty to the raises they are due. Rittich is getting a raise people. I will say this again; Hockey is a team sport with a salary cap. You don't spend more then an 8th of your cap on 1 player when you have another 21 positions to fill . You fill out a Roster and have depth down to the 4th line. That's how you hurt top heavy opponenents. You grind them to paste for a full 60 minutes, not just 22 mins when your top line is out. Look at Vegas. They have no one that is worth 12mill, but they do have 4 2nd lines.

The pengiuns have won as many cups as they have because they have the ability to find ELC players that step up and play like they are 5 year vets.

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W

Since we're discussing pipe dreams like Tavares, here's another to mull over:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/c...erik-karlsson/

Francis proposed Fox + Gillies/Parsons + Andersson/Kylington for Karlsson

Hell yeah you do that if your the Flames.

[getoverit]

Ask is higher for Evander Kane, your not getting that for arguably the best defencemen in the league for what is suggested lol

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

Francis proposed Fox + Gillies/Parsons + Andersson/Kylington for Karlsson

Hell yeah you do that if your the Flames.

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by Reaper

No, the acquisition cost would be too high. Double no because it's Francis.

Karlsson at 10-12, a 7 year contract, and half an ankle? No thanks

[yourbestfriend]

Originally Posted by getoverit

Ask is higher for Evander Kane, your not getting that for arguably the best defencemen in the league for what is suggested lol

I definitely agree.
I forgot to mention that Francis is a dumbass

[GoJetsGo]

Why stop there? Add Karlsson and Ekman-Larsson.

All your top defenders are belong to us.


The goal should be having Brodie and Hamonic as our 7/8 in the press box. Now that's depth.

[StrykerSteve]

If you can add Erik Karlsson and not lose anything off your current roster, yes, you make that deal.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Why stop there? Add Karlsson and Ekman-Larsson.

All your top defenders are belong to us.


The goal should be having Brodie and Hamonic as our 7/8 in the press box. Now that's depth.

Gaudreau - Jankowski - Bennett
Tkachuk - Rookie - Mangiapane
Rookie - Rookie - Hathaway
Rookie - Rookie - Rookie

Karlsson - OEL
Doughty - Josi
Giordano - Burns

Smith

[Roof-Daddy]

Flames don't trade for Karlsson without moving one of their RHD in the process.

The most likely one to go the other way would be Hamilton IMO, which would drastically reduce the rest of the return. (because obviously it would be Hamilton +)

While Karlsson would be a very large upgrade on Hamilton, I'd prefer to stay the course as Karlsson is going to break the bank and the Flames would either be paying him $10 million + or lose him as a UFA in a year and a half.

[joejoe3]

Originally Posted by FlamesFanTrev

Yes these are all correct and fair points. But it's not about hurting someone's feelings because someone makes more then them. It's about having enough money to sign Ferland, Bennet and Matty to the raises they are due. Rittich is getting a raise people. I will say this again; Hockey is a team sport with a salary cap. You don't spend more then an 8th of your cap on 1 player when you have another 21 positions to fill . You fill out a Roster and have depth down to the 4th line. That's how you hurt top heavy opponenents. You grind them to paste for a full 60 minutes, not just 22 mins when your top line is out. Look at Vegas. They have no one that is worth 12mill, but they do have 4 2nd lines.

The pengiuns have won as many cups as they have because they have the ability to find ELC players that step up and play like they are 5 year vets.

Chiarelli: "Say what?"

[Zulu29]

Kind of a strange article, the Flames are set on D and could clearly use a right winger to spark some mark offence and spark the power play. Besides, we can’t afford both Karlsson AND Tavares!

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

If you can add Erik Karlsson and not lose anything off your current roster, yes, you make that deal.

Given the contract that he will want, No. You don't.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Dan403

Given the contract that he will want, No. You don't.

...because elite talent is worth paying for?

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

...because elite talent is worth paying for?

Karlsson is certainly an elite talent, but I do worry about his injury history. He relies on speed to be effective and as he gets older I worry about that Achilles injury cropping up again.

[jonkaupp]

If you can get Karlsson for the assets Francis said then of course you do it but the trade he proposed was a pipe dream.

[smiggy77]

Originally Posted by yourbestfriend

Francis proposed Fox + Gillies/Parsons + Andersson/Kylington for Karlsson

Hell yeah you do that if your the Flames.

Lol I don't know what Francis is smoking. You'd have to minimum add a Backlund to that to make it even a conversation IMO.

[Big Erned Nevergivn]

Francis is an F-n moron. His proposal for Karlsson is ridiculous. It would have to start with Hamilton, 1st rounder + roster player (like backlund or frolik) + a level prospect. We are talking about a top 5 player in the league (the only ppg d-man in the league). Even if its just a rental for 1.5 years, the value would be enormous. I would argue Karlsson at 6.5 value is much higher than McJesusgoat at 12.5 in a cap world. Acquiring arguably the most valuable player in the league for a couple prospects is laughable.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by jonkaupp

If you can get Karlsson for the assets Francis said then of course you do it but the trade he proposed was a pipe dream.

I wouldn't. Not only is he going to want $12M per but his game has degraded since his surgery. This is the exact kind of deal that puts you in cap jail while you are waiving goodbye to players like Tkachuk, Ferland, and Bennett because you can't afford to sign them. It isn't even a position we need a big upgrade at to boot Hell no.