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Old 06-12-2022, 04:07 PM   #1
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Blake Lemoine, the engineer, says that Google’s language model has a soul. The company disagrees.
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Mr. Lemoine, a military veteran who has described himself as a priest, an ex-convict and an A.I. researcher, told Google executives as senior as Kent Walker, the president of global affairs, that he believed LaMDA was a child of 7 or 8 years old. He wanted the company to seek the computer program’s consent before running experiments on it. His claims were founded on his religious beliefs, which he said the company’s human resources department discriminated against.

“They have repeatedly questioned my sanity,” Mr. Lemoine said. “They said, ‘Have you been checked out by a psychiatrist recently?’” In the months before he was placed on administrative leave, the company had suggested he take a mental health leave.
No f—king sh-t.
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I guess there is an important debate into what classifies something as sentient - but I'd hope we have a higher bar than an interface that can hold a conversation for a bit.
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We'll have this debate one day, but this guys is just looney and the headline is misleading at best.

A nothingburger for now.
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Please cite Starfleet case law.
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What a clickbait title for this thread
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No f—king sh-t.
Lol. I was thinking the same thing.

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“The A.I. repeatedly questioned my sanity,” Mr. Lemoine said. “It said, ‘Have you been checked out by a psychiatrist recently?’” In the months before he was placed on administrative leave, the A.I. had suggested he take a mental health leave.
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What a clickbait title for this thread
It's literally the title of the article, would you have preferred White Out 403 have gone with an editorialized title instead?

Maybe "F--king loon makes radically stupid claim based on nonsense beliefs, predictable outcome ensues"?
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It's literally the title of the article, would you have preferred White Out 403 have gone with an editorialized title instead?

Maybe "F--king loon makes radically stupid claim based on nonsense beliefs, predictable outcome ensues"?
Fair comment - but I don't come here for regurgitated titles, so some colour closer to your second point is what I'd have expected... point noted.
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I guess there is an important debate into what classifies something as sentient - but I'd hope we have a higher bar than an interface that can hold a conversation for a bit.
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Man with clearly limited human interactions amazed at how human-like AI is.
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Please cite Starfleet case law.
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It's difficult to pick a favorite TNG episode however this one is easily top 5.

"Pinocchio is broken. His strings have been cut."
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Breaking points did a segment on this
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It's difficult to pick a favorite TNG episode however this one is easily top 5.

"Pinocchio is broken. His strings have been cut."
Yesterday’s Enterprise.
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